Is the NNS UI team around? Suggestions/Requests

[skilesare]

A couple of suggestions for the NNS that would be nice to have. One is a convenience for app devs and one would be really helpful for ICDevs.org.

1. Is there a workflow we can put in place so that app devs can more easily have users ‘fund’ the account ID for their unique Internet Identity account? I’ve run across this a couple of times where devs have complained that it is a multi-step process. It would be great if I could give the user a link like Internet Computer Content Validation Bootstrap that would preload the transaction in the NNS so the user can select a from-account and authorize it.

2. Can we put back the Manage Neuron topic with a clear description and warning of what it does? I think I requested its removal months ago when there was not enough description of what it did(I and others gave the dfinity foundation control of our neurons). Now I really need it for ICDevs.org because one of the fundraising mechanisms is to have users ‘dedicate’ their neurons to the charity. They get to keep the ICP staked in a neuron, but ICDevs can harvest the maturity on the neuron as a donation. I’ve found a way to hack this in the nns(see the absurd instruction on ICDevs.org), but it isn’t a long-term solution.

Thanks!

[skilesare]

This is still very relevant to me as I a user today had to go through the headache of finding the new breakpoint in the nns UI code. If someone could reach out from the NNS team I’d appreciate it.

[ielashi]

Hi @skilesare, thanks for your feedback. We’re now in the process of rewriting the NNS dapp (see this post). For the time being, we won’t be able to introduce new features unfortunately.

I’d suggest that you file your suggestions as issues on Github, and the team can look into those once the rewrite is complete.

[icpjesse]

Hi @ielashi possible to get an update on the status of the NNS App rewrite? ty!

[diegop]

Here are some updates on this:

1. Network Nervous System Dapp is Moving to Svelte
2. NNS dapp "Voting" tab in Svelte live

[skilesare]

@peterparker Here was one of my original requesters…there a few more littered throughout the forum archives:

What is this? Proposals allowed domains

I use proposals and follow neurons for private proposals to manage a set of dedicated neurons. Today when I went to run scripts to pull Maturity from those neurons there were a bunch of changes. First a type had changed from text to opt text for the title field. Why? Second, I got an error that the URL had to point to the forums. This is a private proposal and I don’t intend to have public posts about it: [image] It is very frustrating that this feature of the NNS has gotten harder and ha…

NNS dapp - UI design upgrade and public proposals

Great addition for transparency! Please add back the Manage Neuron topic. Please. Pretty Please?

The "Goodwill ICP" Distribution Framework

This is the most frustrating thing about this…you can already do this! But dfinity won’t add back the functionality into the NNS UI. It is extraordinarily frustrating. You can give a charity, or anyone really, control of your neuron. If this is an 8-year staked neuron, there isn’t anything evil that they can do to you…you maintain control and can kick them off anytime you want. It is called the “manage neuron topic” and dfinity could enable it back with one line of code. If you are a hacker …

Community fund | Revised design proposal

People can follow ICDevs on the manage neuron topic. Every time the maturity gets >1 ICP we spawn the maturity to a new neuron that ICDevs owns, then we dissolve it. I haven’t looked at the underpinnings of this yet to see if we could use Maturity instead of a spawned neuron(Can you split your neuron into one that holds all the maturity and one that doesn’t? I’m not sure). I wish it were otherwise, but I have severe doubts that any taxing authority will view the use of maturity in investment …

Network Nervous System Dapp is Moving to Svelte

Please add the manage neuron topic to your back log. This will greatly help a number of people that want to delegate their neuron, donate it, or use multi-sig to manage their neruon.

[peterparker]

Thanks for collecting the links. I forward your inputs more people of the team. Will follow-up.

[skilesare]

I know that @wpb was asking about this feature recently as well.

[wpb]

@peterparker

The thread started by @bjoern below hits on the use case for why I really, really want to be able to ManageNeuron from the NNS dApp as mentioned by @skilesare. It would enable more decentralized control of neurons such as synapse.vote. I believe it requires allowing Followees to vote for ManageNeuron proposal topics from the NNS dApp, which I understand is easy. It also requires enabling any Followee to submit a ManageNeuron proposal, which I understand is much more difficult. We could probably get by using command line to submit ManageNeuron proposal topics, but the voting part is quite important since all Followees do not have command line skills. Ideally, this would work for a neuron without a controller so neuron management can only occur through the Manage Neuron proposal topic by the Followees. It would also be nice if it could be easily verified that there is no controller for the neuron from within the NNS dApp.

Incidentally, there is a configuration for neurons to designate them as a non-profit. I’d like to learn more about that feature and how to activate it, but have never seen any literature or discussion about it. I think that could also be an interesting feature to consider.

How to create a decentralized community neuron

NOTE: Since the latest governance upgrade, the method described below does not work anymore since disburse_to_neuron does not copy the followees anymore. I will update this tutorial shortly to use spawn instead, where the same strategy still works. How to create a decentralized community neuron Recent months have brought amazing progress toward the decentralization of the IC governance system, the NNS. Several named neurons have been created and accumulated significant following, including ICP…

[dfisher]

I’ll second this. Synapse isn’t decentralized enough. We need to make control and voting more decentralized.