Of course you are wrong, please don’t misuse words like FULL CONTROL. How is it not decentralized when 52% of the eco rewards are contractually issued? If you ask about the airdrop portion, how can it be called complete when at most 7% of the portion is questioned?After SNS, all the airdrop portions have to initiate a vote, for example, the addresses that participated in presale early on hand out the airdrops, how is this process not decentralized. How about you go look at KINIC or HoN for airdrops? You don’t have to do that if you’re blowing off steam all day, simply vote NO and be on your way, if you have neurons.
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SNS wouldn’t be a perfect system, the program needs to be set up according to SNS parameters, have you gone through the SNS process? If you have a hammer in your hand, you can only see nails in your eyes. Even assuming the EMC is guilty, you won’t gain anything, and you won’t be able to influence anyone’s independent judgment. So, I suggest you propose to refine the SNS more, maybe that’s more beneficial.
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What does this even mean? And no I will not go away. This is an open forum, I can continue to voice my concerns as I see fit. And yes I already voted No.
Also I questioned KINIC and Hot or Not equally.
So tell me what is eco rewards? Isn’t that just the treasury that is beholden to the initial raise?
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I am not saying you are guilty. I am just looking at the numbers. Obvs this is an experiment and we will see how it evolves. I guess we can all pretend to “decentralize”.
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Please read the white paper carefully before asking
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So will you blackhole that canister that sets the treasury that distributes the rewards? Would be nice to have those tokens reward of 420 million tokens in a canister that is blackholed and not under the control of SNS. If that is done then those tokens are really decentralized since they cannot be revoked by a simple majority holder of the SNS, which for a while will be EMC. Le’ts not pretend.
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Do you really not understand or are you pretending not to understand? All canister contracts have to be handed over to the SNS root before open swap, and all later modifications have to be voted on by SNS, if you don’t understand that, please go learn about SNS, if you understand it and still say that, then you’re not only stupid but also bad.
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It seems like you don’t understand. You are such a nice person for calling me stupid. Thanks for that. I am somehow bad and stupid. Wow. You seem like such a gentleman.
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My questions about a mere risk where taken into consideration as if I am FUDing your project.
I am an investor, and just like a traditional business, I have questions and concerns when I see the risk.
If you think that asking for risk is toxic, then maybe you do not belong in this industry. These guys are Chinese citizens living in HK and raising funds from US citizens. What could go wrong? Two days ago Chinese authorities arrested a blockchain founder who was living abroad operating his exchange. He went back to China and got arrested.
The only reason this team is getting NO votes is because of how you treat the community. The founder replies like he is the only one know is knowledgeable in this whole world and has a bunch of paid supporters who back him up.
lower your arrogance and come down to earth and speak with your community with open ears and clear eyes maybe you will understand who you are dealing with.
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I thought CF was a neuronal interest originating from all investors in the ICP ecosystem, turns out I was wrong, it’s funds for US citizens, turns out it’s a racial conflict.
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You are misrepresenting my words. If you do not have experience or know how to answer a mere risk question, then maybe you shouldn’t answer it. Don’t bend my worlds and make me look like a racist. Currently, taking funds from the US is a risk to everyone. Maybe you do not know this since you’re “busy building” . Check with your so-called lawyer and understand the risk and rewards before you throw me into the fire pit.
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Is this what you want from a project leader? Someone who loses their cool when the community asks a simple question. VOTE wisely ICP community.
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You are not “the community” and you didn’t ask a simple question.
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The definition of a community is about people interacting and driving the group forward, with the same purpose. Obviously from time to time there comes someone who does not agree and try to push an agenda forward that suits their needs like EMC is doing right now. The forum is here for a reason. Matter of fact is that EMC has nothing and by that I mean 0 , zero to do with the IC . You can call it L2 and any other AI bullshit it is just a pile of forked code that is worth absolutely nothing, we can call it whatever at this time there is nothing worth for SNS. Next thing is that for sure it is not a scam and it deserves the benefit of doubt just like any other project. Buying bots and doing shady things that any sane person can clearly see and than bitch about it and attacking people for pointing out flaws is not the way to go. There is some potential for this project and maybe if they can work with the community they may end up getting somewhere but for now they are worthless.
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In the end, Only dfinity knows the right thing to do. To filter through the chaos and noise to make the decision that suits the community. Right now, the talk has gone beyond rational-- It’s mostly emotional and personal. I believe EMC has shown all the facts there is and the community has seen. The community may now go ahead and make the decision. I personally vote EMC because it’s the only thing in ICP that isn’t a direct copy of web2. I’m excited to see where it ends and what it brings to the protocol.
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You are merely an internet spammer under the guise of a community, standing on the moral high ground and fabricating facts will give you presence.When you go and accuse someone of something out of nothing, which is justified, and when someone responds to you, you become the judge of the community.
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I like how we resort to name calling now. Zack has been with ICP community from the very beginning. It is hard to hear opposing views. I get it. Maybe go touch some grass. Go outside in nature and realize that sometimes things aren’t always how you make them to be and it’s not a bad thing to hear diff perspectives.
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Rumor mongers who create rumors out of nothing, jumping to conclusions outside of their own perceptions instead of thinking about other possibilities, rejecting new things because they think they are the OG of IC, that’s why IC’s ecosystem is so bad, and now what’s left isn’t a builder but a bunch of OLD DOGS who are trapped by the price of ICP.
It’s pathetic.
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I don’t know where you get your anger from. It seems like you have never had anyone critique you in your life. We are just voices here, nothing more nothing less. We love Dfinity and the vision Dom + Team set for the Internet Computer. It has actually surprised me how negative this thread has gotten. First time this has happened with my interactions on this forum. We each have our own values and are free to express ourselves. At times this leads into conflict with people like yourself but I will never resort to name calling. We just want what we think is best for the ecosystem. I don’t think we have any ill will. I personally don’t have any ill will toward EMC. I am just holding it to a standard of what I would like to see.
And yes I do love dogs.
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Not sure why you are so negative.
I totally understand why people are reluctant to answer positively to your new NNS intent, not even a week after the opposition you received last week. How about not rushing it and make the steps the more diligently possible, instead of resending the next intent the following day ? Dont you think it shows quite some project and tokenomics immaturity if the number you provide arent accurate ? Maturity doesnt evolve within 24h, nor in a project structure, nor with the interaction and view from your community ( even tho you give openly rewards for people shilling your project )
Look at the bright side, so many NNS are happening right now and market conditions arent so great.
You will probably be much more successful with better market conditions, and have a more mature product in a few months to reach your goal. I do not think anyone in here has bad intentions and if people are studying and analysing this project so much, is because they have great expectations and they should be thanked to point weakness in this project since they will be also the first one to support you once they will be answered.
Instead you dont seem to answer them respectfully.
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