Drain the Swamp

[borovan]

[Jordan_xx]

Vladyslav Popov is my favourite name

[borovan]

I know, ChatGPT can be so creative!

[hope888]

The other discussion before this one, which I said had tons of corruption but was quickly deleted, was that the CCP was handling it exactly the same way, by eliminating all opposition.

[JaMarco]

Off topic, but I have a few tech questions:

@saikatdas0790

Our experience in building scalable Dapps on the IC has culminated in us building these 4 Dapps:

• https://yral.com/ - Decentralized TikTok alternative
• https://hotornot.wtf/ - Content that doesn’t conform to app store guidelines are automatically segregated here. Powered by AI. Our answer to having a clean feed on Yral.
• https://icpump.fun/ - Anyone can create their own token in seconds. No gas, no bonding curve. An ICRC 1,2,3 compliant token in seconds
• https://pumpdump.wtf/ - Fair Token P2P game that’s built on top of ICPump.fun memecoins

How many total and monthly active users to your 4 apps have?

@saikatdas0790

The frontends for these are hosted off chain to be able to use server-side rendering using Leptos, a Rust based WASM framework. The code and deployment details for all of it can be found here:

Whats the reason that Leptos front end code couldnt be hosted on IC? Is IC unable to do server-side rendering?

Whats do you see the value of only partially hosting an app on IC? Whats the advantage of hosting just the backend on IC?

@saikatdas0790

So, we’ve been wracking our brains all this time and iterating constantly and vehemently trying to figure out different hyper-scale architectures that can drastically reduce costs for us while still letting us maintain the kind of distributed scale we’ve been trying to solve for.

What has been your approach to reduce IC canister costs?

@saikatdas0790

This is also the reason why we’ve always INSISTED on a single-user, single-canister architecture even though we’ve been advised against it by Dfinity engineering because ultimately we wanted to be able to host multiple apps for a single user from the same backend canister and have a single user’s data be neatly isolated to their personal canister

Why is it necessary to have every users data isolated to a personal canister?

@saikatdas0790

We are a small team that has always been IC first and intend to remain that way for decades.

Why do you see IC as the necessary future of your platform?

Thanks.

[saikatdas0790]

@JaMarco

How many total and monthly active users to your 4 apps have?

Approx 10-15k MAU deduplicated across 4 apps currently with virtually zero marketing spend. Trying to figure out product market fit for organic virality and adoption, both inside the IC ecosystem and outside

@JaMarco

Is IC unable to do server-side rendering

That’s right

@JaMarco

Whats the advantage of hosting just the backend on IC

Tamperproof smart contracts governed by a DAO. All data lives on canisters.

Server side frontend is stateless. Done for the speed benefits. Client side rendered frontend is drastically slower

@JaMarco

What has been your approach to reduce IC canister costs?

Dynamically back up and evict inactive canisters to a cold storage beyond a certain threshold of inactivity. Restore them on user return.

@JaMarco

Why is it necessary to have every users data isolated to a personal canister?

Answered in the section you’ve quoted

@JaMarco

Why do you see IC as the necessary future of your platform

Tamperproof unstoppable smart contracts with database like storage that costs comparably to traditional cloud completely governed by a DAO

[Henry_Suso]

I’m still confused on how dolr dapps correspond with node providing.

[Sormarler]

Whenever the ICP price reaches $5 we get all this nonsense FUD. I don’t know if it’s people shorting ICP or it’s just investors getting overwhelmed. It’s getting ridiculous.

[ysyms]

should think about why it is $5.

[Sormarler]

I’ll take a stab at explaining why it’s $5 - the entire crypto market is in a downtrend right now, which means ICP’s price has naturally followed suit and decreased as well.

[ysyms]

If we blindly float in a sea of shitcoins, how are we any different from those we criticize?

[snoopy]

Let me help you out here dude. Seems you are capable of using the forum search function to look up “good health”, that function can also be used to look up people’s forum names, fyi. Maybe if you tag them, they might actually pay attention to this unhinged thread. But let me save you the trouble, here yah go:

@Volodymyr
@JunQ

And OMG - look at this - there is even no number 23 in their user names - what a shame!