Freeze EstateDAO

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Check out the principal that owns 99% of the supply.

They (George, Saikat, Rishi and Bianca) botted the NNS to lock up ICP and drain the neuron fund. This is a blackhat attack on the network economics. These are the same people that are overloading subnets and pushing up cycle costs.

We shouldn’t refund this OR FuelEV. Burn the whole SNS to the ground.

EDIT: FuelEV exactly the same. ICPSwap. What a surprise.

I suggest kicking them off the network permanently, and take legal action against these leeches.

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Trust me this is best for the network. I’ll lose 160k+ ICP that I put into these vile scammers but I don’t care because ICP will be better off.

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I disagree, they did nothing wrong. Let’s stop the drama and move on.

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Ok doing more research it seems that the principal and subaccounts doesn’t necessarily mean they’re the same person. But even with that in mind -

DOLR AI - they are actively attacking subnets
Estate DAO - no product, sale was botted
FuelEV - no product, sale was botted.

So the proposals still stand.

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Would you please clarify what you are trying to say? Isn’t this principal that you claim owns 99% of the supply just the EstateDAO governance canister? Doesn’t the NNS own the governance canister? What’s the problem?

Here is the link you provided to ICPswap…

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Here is the governance canister as displayed on the dashboard…

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Such a scammy project, but it is an SNS account that controls 99 percent.

"top_holders": [
        {
            "principal": "bmjwo-aqaaa-aaaaq-aac4a-cai",
            "kind": "SNS",
            "balance": "993088640.618",
            "percentage": "98.962"
        },
        {
            "principal": "6f7yb-inbga-5bmet-7gfzr-mvz55-lckpg-invjn-vbzao-g4uea-kaxij-yae",
            "kind": "USER",
            "balance": "3424863.818",
            "percentage": "0.341"
        },
        {
            "principal": "ovm5r-oiaaa-aaaag-qjtwa-cai",
            "kind": "ICPSWAP",
            "balance": "1987632.936",
            "percentage": "0.198"
        },
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Did you even read the post before yours?

Does this mean that 99.7% of the supply is still in the SNS and hasnt been taken out of neurons? I mean if that’s true it SCREAMS scam.

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How do you pull that info? I would like to do it on all the SNSes

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Plug Intelligence, you can dm me

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Im with you borovan

Go and kick these scammers

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Voting with my feet … (up their *****)

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You could have edited out the mistake, but instead you decided to create a new post down the thread. No need to cast shade.

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So do you think it’s weird that this sale seemed to be created via a script, and all the proceeds belong to the same account? Have we just caught you defending scammers again?

George, Geeta, Bianca, Rishi and Saikat are attacking the IC and you seem to be blissfully aware.

Plase Wenzel, tell me why this SNS has 591 Neurons belonging to the same principal?

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Waiting to see exactly how you’ll avoid telling me the answer. Maybe I’ll get this post hidden again!

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If I had edited it out you’d have criticised me anyway. You can never win with people like you, you’ve got an answer for everything, anything can be twisted around and directed back at anybody who criticises you. That is the biggest red flag of all.

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I have no idea. SNS neurons are created by the SNS framework that is controlled by the NNS. The SNS dev team has nothing to do with the creation of principals, accounts, and neurons and to suggest otherwise seems pretty idiotic at the moment. But who knows, maybe you really are the smartest guy in the room.

Perhaps instead of casting shade on things you know nothing about you should present information in a neutral tone and then ping people like @aterga at DFINITY who is working on the SNS team and probably know the answer to your questions.

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Please revisit my post and tell me where I criticized you. My criticism of you came after you fired the first shot. If you want to agree to remove all the derogatory stuff about each other, then I’d be happy to comply.

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The EstateDAO sale was @saikatdas0790 scripting a way to automatically fund the SNS from one account, to make it look like there were lots of participants.

The goal - to attack the SNS by taking the Neuron Fund, and to clog up the whole process with useless vapourware projects.

The 51% would be guaranteed. Take few percent for liquidity, update the repo every few months, rinse repeat.

I would be very surprised if you weren’t aware of this Wenzel. You are laser focused on one thing - voting power. I knew that at genesis.

I’m telling you what I know, but my lawyers will be doing the real work.

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I couldn’t care less about voting power. I’m focused on advancing decentralization by incentivizing active participation.

I also have never had an interest in EstateDAO, which is why I don’t know much about it. If I recall correctly, they did have Neuron’s Fund participation. If so, then DFINITY would have reviewed the forum post, proposal, yaml file, repo, whitepaper, etc and made sure that there was nothing abnormal and it fulfilled the requirements of the SNS launch checklist. It seems like an abnormality regarding neuron principals would have been identified, especially if the dev team actually has any control over it and were to use the same principal for all addresses.

Did you review the forum thread for EstateDAO to see if there were any questions raised along these lines? It wouldn’t be that hard to find.

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Doubt this (abcdef.)

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One post just after an announcement constitutes enough interest to you? Are you serious?