Warning - Boom DAO Red Flag!

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your post is Off-topic and irrelevant

Apollon is a research firm and we have more members than Cat. Or let’s give you the benefit of doubt, and say that We are Indeed Cat, how is it in any way relevant to this topic?

Amusing…

vision-maybe

Since you flag other people’s post as off topic, what should we do with yours?

Accusations? Boom DAO just drained 320,000 ICP from the treasury. I thought that was the whole point of this thread.

There is proof on chain if you want to see. You just have to navigate to the ICA dashboard and check BOOM DAO SNS

How exactly is this “DAO” again?

Like we said. You can make any number of comments. But we are here only for information and discourse with serious people. We will obviously mute you to stop your spam tags.

I don’t understand the comparison to FTX here. SBF was unethically stealing money from people. The NNS rightfully used incentives to get people to behave you certain way.

read this @Sormarler

lets keep the discussion on BOOM DAO’s red flags and how they drained the treasury. Leave us your replies and We will get back to you with responses. We already spent enough time here going in circles.

Someone is actively censoring the discussion @Sormarler, we have no more interest in this. Good luck.

Perhaps he was blown away by the presentations and couldn’t have predicted what they would do in the future.

Also, it is not a foreign conclusion that BoomDAO has stolen the money and they won’t fulfill their promises.

I would add that the SNS framework is a year old. DAOs have been around since Ethereum and no one has figured out how to make them work yet. Cut SNS some slacks. It’s fine to be critical but come with some solutions like @accumulatingicp has done, as that’s the only way this thing is going to improve.

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Yep, I have advocated for BoomDAO since their launch. I think it is a great project and they have provided good infrastructure that is being used by projects. Yet I was as surprised as everyone else when they moved 80% of the treasury in one move. Turns out they claim it was written into their whitepaper, which was published prior to the token swap. It also turns out that the SNS framework allows this to happen currently. So I’m not so sure it is accurate to claim this is a rug or a criminal act. They have posted explanations for their actions on Twitter (here and here) and they have continued to release products since that treasury move. Nonetheless, it’s understandable for the community, including me, to be uncomfortable with such a big treasury move so early for all the reasons described in the civilized portions of this public discussion. I would love to see @icpmaximalist and @atomikm provide further public clarification on the forum as I have already called for earlier in this post. That could help boost community confidence or at least provide new clarity.

In the meantime, I have already offered significant contribution to ideation on how this issue could be resolved in the future. You would know this if you had actually read any of these threads (here, here, here and here). Instead, you feel you are adding to the “information and discourse” by posting old news, making bold premature claims, and trying to put people on the spot who have nothing to do with the actions of BoomDAO or ICX. Stop the bully tactics and help the community grow. We can all make improvements. For example, we should all take a look at how we set up our SNS neurons. It’s not required to follow the SNS beacon neuron on all topics. DFINITY has already offered advice on how to configure our neurons to ensure they only will vote manually even if we follow the SNS beacon neuron on All Topics. Get the word out. That’s how you can be more helpful. I’m sure there will be improvements in the SNS framework to help mitigate these kinds of issues, but the reality is they will take time and the community needs to be patient. You are not helping IMO; you are only harassing. Your contributions to this thread sound as if you are only seeking an echo chamber. People have expressed a variety of opinions and yet you criticize any opinion that does not sound like your own. Why don’t you simply embrace diversity of thought on this subject. Perhaps then you would actually achieve your claim of being “here only for information and discourse”

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Ethereum is not the same as ICP

Ethereum is

  1. Permissionless
  2. Public
  3. Open to all
  4. Immutable
  5. Monolithic and Decentralized

Where as ICP is none of the above.

Accumulating.icp is indeed a smart person, we did have a conversation with him about the current situation of ICP…

Since you seem to be obsessed with who we are instead of these 51% treasury drain, I think its self explanatory

If you want the word to get out, may we recommend you to not threaten users of this forum with your “flags” and moderators - who are obviously employed and paid for by DFINITY.

? Who is flagging this??

Oh, so you think you are some sort of ICP army. Interesting that you had to create new accounts the same day that @Ivan was banned on Sept 27. Of course, @artemi5 was banned first in record time (days) and you had to pick up for him to answer a credible question that was asked.

These are all @catpirate moves. My suggestion…don’t be a catpirate.

It’s relevant because it speaks to credibility. Your past personas have little credibility, yet they started civilized and reasonable. Time will tell how long the Apollon identity lasts. It might help your credibility if you choose to reveal your identity instead of hiding behind multiple anonymous identities.

You seem to be flagging our replies to other people in this forum.

here, we won’t be addressing this again. You can flag this. Everyone is watching and eventually they can decide for themselves…

I bet your army is flagging your own posts so you can make it look like others. Another @catiprate move.

Let’s not bait and switch the conversation. This conversation was focused on the OP until you came along and steered it off course…again. The forum has rules and rules need to be enforced. Plain an simple. If you don’t like it, then take your complaints to a social media space that doesn’t have rules or moderation. It’s not censorship or threats. Its moderation. Most people know the difference.

Hey welcome back. I guess it was a temporary ban. Congratulations.

Do you mind sharing your discord?

Cute.

You weaponize the forum to deflect any light getting shined on what you’ve been doing in the background.

Truly a stand up member of the community and a valued asset…

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Oh the irony… We just wasted 90 Minutes on this.

We don’t like Bacon in our discord Wenzel

Let me put this in terms you’ll understand: Oink Oink

LOL. One vs an army.

Today we saw about 40 aggressive personal attack spam messages by @ivan_unsensored before he was banned. That was followed by the creation of a new account called @boomerfinity, which dished out another 50 or so messages with the same type of egregious content shown in the screen capture below. Then an account was created that they called @cat2 that tried to impersonate a response from @CatPirate. The screen capture of the Flagged Post that was Removed by Staff was posted by @Apollon Research within 1 minute, which can only happen if Apollon was in control of the @cat2 account. At that point @Artemi5 showed back up after his ban and reveals that the army has a Discord where they collect information about their targets. @nolyoi was posting aggressive nonsense and @Tromix claims that I am weaponizing the forum.

This army is slimy. They hide behind multiple anonymous personalities. They conspire to bait responses. They are highly aggressive knowing that posts will be deleted or hidden and then they switch identities and soften their tone so they can make it look like their victim is the aggressor. They refuse to reveal themselves. They literally wish their victims will “get cancer” and call them a “piece of shit”.

This is the sad reality of Apollon Research and their army.

We have no idea who this is but we applaud your bravery

also Wenzel, how many OFF topic posts did you make now.

Clearly this forum is biased and aligns with DFINITYs interest. We are done discussing this topic for now.

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Ah so you are a coward who can only shout insults? Why won’t you let me come to your own turf and stand up for myself in front of the army…where all the behind the scenes decisions are made and all the misinformation is generated. I’m sure your Discord is not moderated, right? You can cut loose and tell me how you really feel. It will never be deleted and it will be fully documented. Why not? Let’s shed some light on who you are. What are you afraid of?

@Apollon Thank you! :smirk:…It’s Sunday

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