Subnet Management - yinp6 (Application)

Rejected proposal 134582. There’s no time to review this and the 18 other proposals in the same batch properly over Xmas eve, Xmas and Boxing Day. This is a non-critical proposal.

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Proposal 134582

Vote: ADOPT

Replaces cordoned nodes e72ys and mjcgv with nodes 2sjsi and d46vh on subnet yinp6.
The reason for this proposal is to offboard TO1 and AN1 DCs consistent with forum posts made on the forum thread used for posts regarding the renovation/sell of Gen-1 node machines by NPs.
Both the NP and DC stated in the forum post and forum post match the ones from the node being removed in the proposal.

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Voted to adopt proposal #134582.

The proposal replaces two cordoned nodes, one healthy Active status node e72ys from the TO1 Data Center in Toronto 1, and cordoned healthy Active status node mjcgv from the AN1 Data Center in Belgium, with unassigned healthy Awaiting status node 2sjsi from Toronto 2 and with unassigned healthy Awaiting status node d46vh from Korea, without any change to the decentralization of the subnet.
The motivation makes sense and the provided Forum link included in the summary provides further info, also it can be checked here.

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:point_up: There’s an open proposal to make yinp6 a public subnet.

Replace nodes in subnet yinp6

Motivation:
The following nodes in subnet yinp6 have been cordoned and need to be removed from the subnet:

Decentralization Nakamoto coefficient changes for subnet yinp6-35cfo-wgcd2-oc4ty-2kqpf-t4dul-rfk33-fsq3r-mfmua-m2ngh-jqe:

    node_provider: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
      data_center: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
data_center_owner: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
             area: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
          country: 3.00 -> 5.00   (+67%)

Mean Nakamoto comparison: 4.67 → 5.00 (+7%)

Overall replacement impact: (gets better) the average log2 of Nakamoto Coefficients across all features increases from 2.1991 to 2.3219

Details

Nodes removed:

  • 6f7g4-miwmh-hbks4-ecx4e-hgxyr-ylhdh-slh2y-wivah-ydt24-uvflm-2ae [health: healthy]
  • 7mwzk-chbqh-ydgzb-j3bvh-3l7fh-xc7xm-aud2g-hxyx2-bqcop-st67c-dae [health: healthy]

Nodes added:

  • fxdqu-epq5z-kmnok-ch46f-jxujv-of7ws-3ec4b-gszap-gtklj-sxfiv-wae [health: healthy]
  • r5zha-ytiej-livta-dgmfr-j6kma-rdl4t-hldjg-hbydh-ogyjt-fow5r-4qe [health: healthy]
    node_provider                                                              data_center            data_center_owner              area                        country        
    -------------                                                              -----------            -----------------              ----                        -------        
    6nbcy-kprg6-ax3db-kh3cz-7jllk-oceyh-jznhs-riguq-fvk6z-6tsds-rqe       1    br1          0 -> 1    Africa Data Centres       1    Brussels Capital  0 -> 1    BE       0 -> 1
    7at4h-nhtvt-a4s55-jigss-wr2ha-ysxkn-e6w7x-7ggnm-qd3d5-ry66r-cae       1    bu1               1    Central Tower DC          1    Bucuresti              1    CA            1
    7ryes-jnj73-bsyu4-lo6h7-lbxk5-x4ien-lylws-5qwzl-hxd5f-xjh3w-mqe  1 -> 0    fr2               1    Cloud9               0 -> 1    Florida           1 -> 0    CH       2 -> 1
    bvcsg-3od6r-jnydw-eysln-aql7w-td5zn-ay5m6-sibd2-jzojt-anwag-mqe       1    ge1          1 -> 0    Cyxtera                   1    Gauteng                1    DE            1
    dhywe-eouw6-hstpj-ahsnw-xnjxq-cmqks-47mrg-nnncb-3sr5d-rac6m-nae       1    hu1               1    Digital Realty            1    Geneva            1 -> 0    GE       0 -> 1
    i7dto-bgkj2-xo5dx-cyrb7-zkk5y-q46eh-gz6iq-qkgyc-w4qte-scgtb-6ae       1    jb2               1    Equinix                   1    Hesse                  1    IN            1
    r3yjn-kthmg-pfgmb-2fngg-5c7d7-t6kqg-wi37r-j7gy6-iee64-kjdja-jae       1    kr1               1    Everyware                 1    Maribor                1    KR            1
    rbn2y-6vfsb-gv35j-4cyvy-pzbdu-e5aum-jzjg6-5b4n5-vuguf-ycubq-zae  0 -> 1    mb1               1    HighDC               1 -> 0    Navi Mumbai            1    PL            1
    sqhxa-h6ili-qkwup-ohzwn-yofnm-vvnp5-kxdhg-saabw-rvua3-xp325-zqe       1    mm1          1 -> 0    KT                        1    Ontario                1    RO            1
    ulyfm-vkxtj-o42dg-e4nam-l4tzf-37wci-ggntw-4ma7y-d267g-ywxi6-iae       1    nm1               1    M247                      1    Seoul                  1    SG            1
    unqqg-no4b2-vbyad-ytik2-t3vly-3e57q-aje2t-sjb5l-bd4ke-chggn-uqe       1    sg1               1    Posita.si                 1    Singapore              1    SI            1
    vegae-c4chr-aetfj-7gzuh-c23sx-u2paz-vmvbn-bcage-pu7lu-mptnn-eqe  0 -> 1    tb1          0 -> 1    Rivram                    1    Tbilisi           0 -> 1    US       2 -> 1
    wdjjk-blh44-lxm74-ojj43-rvgf4-j5rie-nm6xs-xvnuv-j3ptn-25t4v-6ae       1    to2               1    TRG                       1    Texas                  1    ZA            1
    wdnqm-clqti-im5yf-iapio-avjom-kyppl-xuiza-oaz6z-smmts-52wyg-5ae       1    wa2               1    Telin                     1    Warszawa               1                   
    wwdbq-xuqhf-eydzu-oyl7p-ga565-zm7s7-yrive-ozgsy-zzgh3-qwb3j-cae  1 -> 0    zh2               1                                   Zurich                 1                   
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A new proposal with id 134915 has been submitted, please take a look.

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Replace nodes in subnet yinp6

Motivation:
The following nodes in subnet yinp6 have been cordoned and need to be removed from the subnet:

Decentralization Nakamoto coefficient changes for subnet yinp6-35cfo-wgcd2-oc4ty-2kqpf-t4dul-rfk33-fsq3r-mfmua-m2ngh-jqe:

    node_provider: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
      data_center: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
data_center_owner: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
             area: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
          country: 3.00 -> 5.00   (+67%)

Mean Nakamoto comparison: 4.67 → 5.00 (+7%)

Overall replacement impact: (gets better) the average log2 of Nakamoto Coefficients across all features increases from 2.1991 to 2.3219

Details

Nodes removed:

  • 6f7g4-miwmh-hbks4-ecx4e-hgxyr-ylhdh-slh2y-wivah-ydt24-uvflm-2ae [health: healthy]
  • 7mwzk-chbqh-ydgzb-j3bvh-3l7fh-xc7xm-aud2g-hxyx2-bqcop-st67c-dae [health: healthy]

Nodes added:

  • fxdqu-epq5z-kmnok-ch46f-jxujv-of7ws-3ec4b-gszap-gtklj-sxfiv-wae [health: healthy]
  • r5zha-ytiej-livta-dgmfr-j6kma-rdl4t-hldjg-hbydh-ogyjt-fow5r-4qe [health: healthy]
    node_provider                                                              data_center            data_center_owner              area                        country        
    -------------                                                              -----------            -----------------              ----                        -------        
    6nbcy-kprg6-ax3db-kh3cz-7jllk-oceyh-jznhs-riguq-fvk6z-6tsds-rqe       1    br1          0 -> 1    Africa Data Centres       1    Brussels Capital  0 -> 1    BE       0 -> 1
    7at4h-nhtvt-a4s55-jigss-wr2ha-ysxkn-e6w7x-7ggnm-qd3d5-ry66r-cae       1    bu1               1    Central Tower DC          1    Bucuresti              1    CA            1
    7ryes-jnj73-bsyu4-lo6h7-lbxk5-x4ien-lylws-5qwzl-hxd5f-xjh3w-mqe  1 -> 0    fr2               1    Cloud9               0 -> 1    Florida           1 -> 0    CH       2 -> 1
    bvcsg-3od6r-jnydw-eysln-aql7w-td5zn-ay5m6-sibd2-jzojt-anwag-mqe       1    ge1          1 -> 0    Cyxtera                   1    Gauteng                1    DE            1
    dhywe-eouw6-hstpj-ahsnw-xnjxq-cmqks-47mrg-nnncb-3sr5d-rac6m-nae       1    hu1               1    Digital Realty            1    Geneva            1 -> 0    GE       0 -> 1
    i7dto-bgkj2-xo5dx-cyrb7-zkk5y-q46eh-gz6iq-qkgyc-w4qte-scgtb-6ae       1    jb2               1    Equinix                   1    Hesse                  1    IN            1
    r3yjn-kthmg-pfgmb-2fngg-5c7d7-t6kqg-wi37r-j7gy6-iee64-kjdja-jae       1    kr1               1    Everyware                 1    Maribor                1    KR            1
    rbn2y-6vfsb-gv35j-4cyvy-pzbdu-e5aum-jzjg6-5b4n5-vuguf-ycubq-zae  0 -> 1    mb1               1    HighDC               1 -> 0    Navi Mumbai            1    PL            1
    sqhxa-h6ili-qkwup-ohzwn-yofnm-vvnp5-kxdhg-saabw-rvua3-xp325-zqe       1    mm1          1 -> 0    KT                        1    Ontario                1    RO            1
    ulyfm-vkxtj-o42dg-e4nam-l4tzf-37wci-ggntw-4ma7y-d267g-ywxi6-iae       1    nm1               1    M247                      1    Seoul                  1    SG            1
    unqqg-no4b2-vbyad-ytik2-t3vly-3e57q-aje2t-sjb5l-bd4ke-chggn-uqe       1    sg1               1    Posita.si                 1    Singapore              1    SI            1
    vegae-c4chr-aetfj-7gzuh-c23sx-u2paz-vmvbn-bcage-pu7lu-mptnn-eqe  0 -> 1    tb1          0 -> 1    Rivram                    1    Tbilisi           0 -> 1    US       2 -> 1
    wdjjk-blh44-lxm74-ojj43-rvgf4-j5rie-nm6xs-xvnuv-j3ptn-25t4v-6ae       1    to2               1    TRG                       1    Texas                  1    ZA            1
    wdnqm-clqti-im5yf-iapio-avjom-kyppl-xuiza-oaz6z-smmts-52wyg-5ae       1    wa2               1    Telin                     1    Warszawa               1                   
    wwdbq-xuqhf-eydzu-oyl7p-ga565-zm7s7-yrive-ozgsy-zzgh3-qwb3j-cae  1 -> 0    zh2               1                                   Zurich                 1                   
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Proposal 134915 Review | LORIMER Known Neuron

VOTE: YES

TLDR: Some decentralisation stats are improved, some worsened. The key ones are unchanged. There is a clear public declaration for each cordoned node which is referred to in the proposal summary.

2 cordoned nodes replaced with healthy nodes in Belgium and Georgia.

Decentralisation Stats

Subnet node distance stats (distance between any 2 nodes in the subnet) →

Smallest Distance Average Distance Largest Distance
EXISTING 95.554 km 6561.363 km 16518.328 km
PROPOSED 0 km (-100%) 5924.704 km (-9.7%) 15986.483 km (-3.2%)

This proposal reduces decentralisation, considered purely in terms of geographic distance (and therefore there’s a slight theoretical reduction in localised disaster resilience). :-1:

Subnet characteristic counts →

Continents Countries Data Centers Owners Node Providers Node Operator
EXISTING 4 11 13 13 13 13
PROPOSED 4 12 (+8.3%) 13 13 13 13

This proposal improves decentralisation in terms of jurisdiction diversity. :+1:

Largest number of nodes with the same characteristic (e.g. continent, country, data center, etc.) →

Continent Country Data Center Owner Node Provider Node Operator
EXISTING 7 2 1 1 1 1
PROPOSED 7 2 1 1 1 1

See here for acceptable limits → Motion 132136

The above subnet information is illustrated below, followed by a node reference table:

Map Description
  • Red marker represents a removed node (transparent center for overlap visibility)
  • Green marker represents an added node
  • Blue marker represents an unchanged node
  • Highlighted patches represent the country the above nodes sit within (red if the country is removed, green if added, otherwise grey)
  • Light grey markers with yellow borders are examples of unassigned nodes that would be viable candidates for joining the subnet according to formal decentralisation coefficients (so this proposal can be viewed in the context of alternative solutions that are not being used)

Node Changes
Action Node Status Continent Country Data Center Owner Node Provider Node Operator
Remove 7mwzk UP :bar_chart: Europe Switzerland Geneva (ge1) HighDC Archery Blockchain SCSp yngfj
Remove 6f7g4 UP :bar_chart: Americas United States of America (the) Miami (mm1) Digital Realty Giant Leaf, LLC nj365
Add fxdqu UNASSIGNED :bar_chart: Europe Belgium Brussels (br1) Digital Realty Allusion mjeqs
Add r5zha UNASSIGNED :bar_chart: Asia Georgia Tbilisi 1 (tb1) Cloud9 George Bassadone yhfy4
Other Nodes
Node Status Continent Country Data Center Owner Node Provider Node Operator
d46vh UP :bar_chart: Europe Belgium Seoul 3 (kr1) KT Pindar Technology Limited iubpe
2sjsi UP :bar_chart: Americas Canada Toronto 2 (to2) Cyxtera Blockchain Development Labs 4lp6i
rp2ka UP :bar_chart: Europe Switzerland Zurich 2 (zh2) Everyware DFINITY Stiftung s7dud
kvj4i UP :bar_chart: Europe Germany Frankfurt 2 (fr2) Equinix Virtual Hive Ltd 3nu7r
25a7h UP :bar_chart: Asia India Navi Mumbai 1 (nm1) Rivram Rivram Inc mpmyf
mswad UP :bar_chart: Europe Poland Warszawa 2 (wa2) Central Tower DC Bohatyrov Volodymyr ygsal
kxmey UP :bar_chart: Europe Romania Bucharest (bu1) M247 Iancu Aurel c5ssg
k6zrw UP :bar_chart: Asia Singapore Singapore (sg1) Telin OneSixtyTwo Digital Capital d4bin
mp3w3 UP :bar_chart: Europe Slovenia Maribor (mb1) Posita.si Fractal Labs AG 3xiew
6pt6z UP :bar_chart: Americas United States of America (the) Houston (hu1) TRG 43rd Big Idea Films fthz3
ulcre UP :bar_chart: Africa South Africa Gauteng 2 (jb2) Africa Data Centres Karel Frank bm2lc

*This comment references the latest comment in the Subnet Management - General Discussion thread only to generate an automated cross-link from the general thread (to improve topic navigation).


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Proposal 134915 | Tim - CodeGov

Vote: Adopt

This proposal replaces nodes 6f7g4 and 7mwzk for the respective stated reasons “offboarding MM1 DC after 48 months” and “offboarding the second rack of nodes in the GE1 DC after 48 months”. Node 7mwzk is listed to be handed over in this post. As shown in the proposal, decentralisation parameters are improved with respect to country and remain within the requirements of the target topology.

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Proposal #134915 — Zack | CodeGov

Vote: Adopted
Reason:
The proposal replaces 2 cordoned healthy Active status node 6f7g4 from Miami and healthy Active status node 7mwzk from Geneva, with
unassigned healthy Awaiting status node fxdqu from Brussels and unassigned healthy Awaiting status node r5zha from Georgia. This improves the decentralization of the subnet.
The motivation makes sense and the provided Forum link included in the summary provides further info.

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Proposal 134915 – LaCosta | CodeGov

Vote: ADOPT

Replaces cordoned nodes 6f7g4 and 7mwzk with nodes fxdqu and r5zha on subnet yinp6.
The reason for this proposal is to offboard GE1 and MM1 DCs consistent with forum posts made on the forum thread used for posts regarding the renovation/sell of Gen-1 node machines by NPs.
Both the NP and DC stated in the forum post and forum post match the ones from the node being removed in the proposal.
The GE1 node being removed was also stated here.

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