This topic is intended to capture Subnet Management activities over time for the ejbmu subnet, providing a place to ask questions and make observations about the management of this subnet.
At the time of creating this topic the current subnet configuration is as follows:
This proposal sets the notarisation delay of the subnet to 300ms, down from 600ms. The change will increase the block rate of the subnet, aimed to reduce latency of update calls.
Here are the current metrics for this subnet. A question I’ll be asking on the Subnet Management General thread (see reference below this post) is why this update is being rolled out to so many subnets at once, each with different finalisation rate and transaction profiles (e.g. peaks and troughs, whereas the canary subnet was always steady, even prior to the update). I’m wondering if this limits the representativeness of the results on that canary subnet.
DFINITY will submit a proposal today to reduce the notarization delay on the subnet, ejbmu , similar to what has happened on other subnets in recent weeks (you can find all details in this forum thread ).
Thanks @dsharifi. Was this post intended for another subnet? (the notarisation delay has already been recently updated on ejbmu)
Update: I’ve reviewed the subnet metrics, re-reviewed the prior proposal, and also confirmed the current config of the subnet using IC-Admin. Having confirmed that this subnet already has a notarization delay of 300ms I’ve rejected the proposal (not that it would matter if this executed). As you would expect, and as pointed out by @Sat in the WaterNeuron DAO, these operations are idempotent
TLDR: I’ll adopt. The proposal links directly to what appears to be discussion with the NP about the proposal. Decentralisation stats look good.
Decentralisation Stats
Subnet node distance stats (distance between any 2 nodes in the subnet) →
Smallest Distance
Average Distance
Largest Distance
EXISTING
321.16 km
7320.824 km
18192.393 km
PROPOSED
321.16 km
7824 km (+6.9%)
18192.393 km
This proposal slightly increases decentralisation, considered purely in terms of geographic distance (and therefore there’s a slight theoretical increase in localised disaster resilience).
Subnet characteristic counts →
Continents
Countries
Data Centers
Owners
Node Providers
Node Operator
EXISTING
4
13
13
13
13
13
PROPOSED
4
13
13
13
13
13
Largest number of nodes with the same characteristic (e.g. continent, country, data center, etc.) →
The above subnet information is illustrated below, followed by a node reference table:
Map Description
Red marker represents a removed node (transparent center for overlap visibility)
Green marker represents an added node
Blue marker represents an unchanged node
Highlighted patches represent the country the above nodes sit within (red if the country is removed, green if added, otherwise grey)
Light grey markers with yellow borders are examples of unassigned nodes that would be viable candidates for joining the subnet according to formal decentralisation coefficients (so this proposal can be viewed in the context of alternative solutions that are not being used)
*This comment references the latest comment in the Subnet Management - General Discussion thread only to generate an automated cross-link from the general thread (to improve topic navigation).
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The proposal replaces two cordoned healthy Active status node 5w4eg from the AN1 Data Center in Belgium, and cordoned healthy Active status node aae7j from the CH2 Data Center in Illinois, with unassigned healthy Awaiting status node kv4yb from Florida and with unassigned healthy Awaiting status node 6zj3x from Hong Kong, without any change to the decentralization of the subnet.
The motivation makes sense and the provided Forum link included in the summary provides further info, also it can be checked here.
This proposal replaces 2 nodes, due to offboarding AN1 and CH2 data centres. Decentralisation parameters are unchanged and remain within the requirements of the target topology. Data centre details are consistent with the links provided in the proposal.
Replaces cordoned nodes 5w4eg and aae7j with nodes kv4yb and 6zj3x on subnet ejbmu.
The reason for this proposal is to offboard CH2 and AN1 DCs consistent with forum posts made on the forum thread used for posts regarding the renovation/sell of Gen-1 node machines by NPs.
Both the NP and DC stated in the forum post match the ones from the node being removed in the proposal.
This proposal replaces node oxa4d which appears in the dashboard as “Status: Active” for the stated reason “offboarding the second rack of nodes in the mb1 DC after 48 months”. As shown in the proposal, decentralisation parameters are unchanged and remain within the requirements of the target topology.
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TLDR: Decentralisation stats are unchanged and there is a clear public declaration for the cordoned node which is referred to in the proposal summary. 1 cordoned node replaced with another node belonging to the same NP at the same data centre.
Decentralisation Stats
Subnet node distance stats (distance between any 2 nodes in the subnet) →
Smallest Distance
Average Distance
Largest Distance
EXISTING
474.402 km
7764.697 km
17761.836 km
PROPOSED
474.402 km
7764.697 km
17761.836 km
Subnet characteristic counts →
Continents
Countries
Data Centers
Owners
Node Providers
Node Operator
EXISTING
4
13
13
13
13
13
PROPOSED
4
13
13
13
13
13
Largest number of nodes with the same characteristic (e.g. continent, country, data center, etc.) →
The above subnet information is illustrated below, followed by a node reference table:
Map Description
Red marker represents a removed node (transparent center for overlap visibility)
Green marker represents an added node
Blue marker represents an unchanged node
Highlighted patches represent the country the above nodes sit within (red if the country is removed, green if added, otherwise grey)
Light grey markers with yellow borders are examples of unassigned nodes that would be viable candidates for joining the subnet according to formal decentralisation coefficients (so this proposal can be viewed in the context of alternative solutions that are not being used)
*This comment references the latest comment in the Subnet Management - General Discussion thread only to generate an automated cross-link from the general thread (to improve topic navigation).
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Vote: Adopted Reason:
The proposal replaces cordoned healthy Active status node oxa4d in the MB1 DC from Slovenia, with unassigned healthy Awaiting status node efwaf from same DC and NP without any chnge to decentralization.
Motivation is offboarding the second rack of nodes in the MB1 DC after 48 months, in line with the forum post.
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Replaces cordoned node oxa4d with node efwaf on subnet ejbmu.
The reason for this proposal is to offboard the second rack of nodes from the MB1 DC consistent with forum posts made on the forum thread used for posts regarding the renovation/sell of Gen-1 node machines by NPs.
Both the NP and DC stated in the forum post match the ones from the node being removed in the proposal.
About CodeGov…
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Learn more about CodeGov and its mission at codegov.org.
This proposal replaces 1 node in subnet ejbmu, appearing in the decentralization tool as “DOWN”. As shown in the proposal, decentralisation parameters are unchanged and remain within the requirements of the target topology.
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CodeGov has a team of developers who review and vote independently on the following proposal topics: IC-OS Version Election, Protocol Canister Management, Subnet Management, Node Admin, and Participant Management. The CodeGov NNS known neuron is configured to follow our reviewers on these technical topics. We also have a group of Followees who vote independently on the Governance and the SNS & Neurons’ Fund topics. We strive to be a credible and reliable Followee option that votes on every proposal and every proposal topic in the NNS. We also support decentralisation of SNS projects such as WaterNeuron, KongSwap, and Alice with a known neuron and credible Followees.
Learn more about CodeGov and its mission at codegov.org.
The above subnet information is illustrated below, followed by a node reference table:
Map Description
Red marker represents a removed node (transparent center for overlap visibility)
Green marker represents an added node
Blue marker represents an unchanged node
Highlighted patches represent the country the above nodes sit within (red if the country is removed, green if added, otherwise grey)
Light grey markers with yellow borders are examples of unassigned nodes that would be viable candidates for joining the subnet according to formal decentralisation coefficients (so this proposal can be viewed in the context of alternative solutions that are not being used)
Black dotted line connects to a small black marker that shows where the IP address indicates the node is located (according to ipinfo.io). This is only displayed if it conflicts with where IC records indicate the node is located. See Country Discrepancies section above for more info.
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