Subnet Management - bkfrj (European)

This topic is intended to capture Subnet Management activities over time for the bkfrj subnet, providing a place to ask questions and make observations about the management of this subnet.

At the time of creating this topic the current subnet configuration is as follows:

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          "3jol6-6a6dv-ysedb-5qlxc-baclw-ub23p-d324m-7sfus-bkbnk-jlh6b-jqe",
          "xzpf4-zeihc-upncx-zz65w-rep5j-xh2sy-yw6bg-qtgwu-5z3ez-er2gz-sae",
          "popmv-gccw7-zincv-gtcgo-jxfby-ar7zq-odvna-4jcs2-cnovy-qiha6-yae",
          "w3phu-4ihah-tqdl6-n32hp-e5254-l6ybu-kvmmx-thj6t-q7z7k-swvi4-iqe",
          "a3xcb-ezfy5-yib3b-5bo75-5nok4-kaolh-a6akg-ilxck-qdbph-pwppb-dae",
          "foa3b-mjkuu-3qlgu-6o64i-2omzt-x6suc-5gzcq-6j2gz-bftru-j5idg-gae",
          "dzol4-3eqco-5b5ag-ritui-tyl7u-i3iwz-ex2qo-cbfjx-5fmxw-yfgwo-tqe",
          "7exbb-k4tu4-mw24y-3zylh-bopa5-fwdsc-f4a3z-45hh4-twpin-4zv4a-yae",
          "3yok3-yvswm-l4ior-bjh62-fsi73-vfqp3-77wji-coglq-l2bjw-rxrph-uqe",
          "ldqxr-qdliy-howvj-2tamr-3fwul-liakv-7523k-tmhrz-5geyk-jlu7b-uae",
          "c2dnc-3ozfd-ew52a-yvmrc-mjyss-edoch-k7cki-f7vzk-zqapg-aw44i-mqe",
          "lj6xb-t5tcb-dol3s-ay52b-dulse-zyezk-25qyv-l7yqj-4zrc2-hp5qz-sae"
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        "initial_notary_delay_millis": 600,
        "replica_version_id": "b0ade55f7e8999e2842fe3f49df163ba224b71a2",
        "dkg_interval_length": 499,
        "start_as_nns": false,
        "subnet_type": "application",
        "features": {
          "canister_sandboxing": false,
          "http_requests": true,
          "sev_enabled": false
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        "max_number_of_canisters": 120000,
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        "chain_key_config": null
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}
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Proposal 132216

This proposal sets the notarisation delay of the subnet to 300ms, down from 600ms. The change will increase the block rate of the subnet, aimed to reduce latency of update calls.

This is the same subnet config update that was applied to the canary subnet last week, which has held a steady and impressive block rate since. More context is available here → Reducing End to End latencies on the Internet Computer

Here are the current metrics for this subnet. A question I’ll be asking on the Subnet Management General thread (see reference below this post) is why this update is being rolled out to so many subnets at once, each with different finalisation rate profiles (i.e. peaks and troughs, whereas the canary subnet was always steady, even prior to the update). I’m wondering if this limits the representativeness of the results on that canary subnet.

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Voted to adopt proposal 134192, as the reasoning is sound and the description matches the payload. This proposal replaces 1 healthy node, which appears as “Active” on the IC dashboard, for the purpose of making it available for another subnet where it could improve decentralisation parameters. The proposed change leaves the Nakamoto coefficients unchanged and the target topology parameters within the requirements.

3 Likes

Proposal 134192

TLDR: I’m planning to adopt. Replaces a node in this subnet without negatively affecting decentralisation coefficients. The motivation (to make it easier to optimise other subnets) seems reasonable.

Motivation: The node operator raiov currently has all nodes assigned to subnets. We propose to remove one of the operator’s nodes from subnet bkfrj to optimize overall network topology, since subnet decentralization does not worsen upon node removal. This way the same node can be assigned to subnet where it would improve decentralization.

1 removed UK raiov node replaced with a gyzti node in Spain. According to the IC-API raiov currently have two nodes assigned to subnets, and after this proposal passes they will only have one (the other node will be unassigned).

Decentralisation Stats

Subnet node distance stats (distance between any 2 nodes in the subnet) →

Smallest Distance Average Distance Largest Distance
EXISTING 27.369 km 1237.64 km 3485.353 km
PROPOSED 27.369 km 1318.881 km (+6.6%) 3485.353 km

This proposal slightly increases decentralisation, considered purely in terms of geographic distance (and therefore there’s a slight theoretical increase in localised disaster resilience). :+1:

Subnet characteristic counts →

Continents Countries Data Centers Owners Node Providers Node Operator
EXISTING 1 11 13 13 13 13
PROPOSED 1 11 13 13 13 13

Largest number of nodes with the same characteristic (e.g. continent, country, data center, etc.) →

Continent Country Data Center Owner Node Provider Node Operator
EXISTING 13 3 1 1 1 1
PROPOSED 13 3 1 1 1 1

See here for acceptable limits → Motion 132136

The above subnet information is illustrated below, followed by a node reference table:

Map Description
  • Red marker represents a removed node (transparent center for overlap visibility)
  • Green marker represents an added node
  • Blue marker represents an unchanged node
  • Highlighted patches represent the country the above nodes sit within (red if the country is removed, green if added, otherwise grey)
  • Light grey markers with yellow borders are examples of unassigned nodes that would be viable candidates for joining the subnet according to formal decentralisation coefficients (so this proposal can be viewed in the context of alternative solutions that are not being used)

Table
Continent Country Data Center Owner Node Provider Node Operator Node Status Performance
--- Europe United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (the) London 1 (ld1) Latitude.sh Conic Ventures raiov 3jol6-6a6dv-ysedb-5qlxc-baclw-ub23p-d324m-7sfus-bkbnk-jlh6b-jqe UP :bar_chart:
+++ Europe Spain Barcelona 1 (es1) Adam Carbon Twelve gyzti pekym-jis5l-i3ucx-gujvl-ncj7j-7xk7k-uwwkn-qshzy-z765w-rjwdn-aqe UNASSIGNED :bar_chart:
Europe Austria South Moravian Region 1 (bn1) Master Internet Lukas Helebrandt zc635 3yok3-yvswm-l4ior-bjh62-fsi73-vfqp3-77wji-coglq-l2bjw-rxrph-uqe UP :bar_chart:
Europe Belgium Brussels 2 (br2) AtlasEdge Allusion oorkg xzpf4-zeihc-upncx-zz65w-rep5j-xh2sy-yw6bg-qtgwu-5z3ez-er2gz-sae UP :bar_chart:
Europe Switzerland Geneva (ge1) HighDC Archery Blockchain SCSp yngfj c2dnc-3ozfd-ew52a-yvmrc-mjyss-edoch-k7cki-f7vzk-zqapg-aw44i-mqe UP :bar_chart:
Europe Switzerland Zurich 3 (zh3) Nine.Ch Tomahawk.vc anodw w3phu-4ihah-tqdl6-n32hp-e5254-l6ybu-kvmmx-thj6t-q7z7k-swvi4-iqe UP :bar_chart:
Europe Switzerland Zurich 5 (zh5) Green.ch Zondax AG ap2qh lj6xb-t5tcb-dol3s-ay52b-dulse-zyezk-25qyv-l7yqj-4zrc2-hp5qz-sae UP :bar_chart:
Europe Germany Frankfurt 2 (fr2) Equinix Virtual Hive Ltd 3nu7r dzol4-3eqco-5b5ag-ritui-tyl7u-i3iwz-ex2qo-cbfjx-5fmxw-yfgwo-tqe UP :bar_chart:
Europe Estonia Tallinn 2 (ta2) Telia DC Ivanov Oleksandr kcyob 35ddr-mltrg-nxmdq-34ttq-ic4ra-ygatb-vwo2p-7bz2e-lgkex-5djch-3qe UP :bar_chart:
Europe Lithuania Vilnius 2 (vl2) Data Inn George Bassadone inluf ldqxr-qdliy-howvj-2tamr-3fwul-liakv-7523k-tmhrz-5geyk-jlu7b-uae UP :bar_chart:
Europe Portugal Barreiro 1 (ba1) Online Bohatyrov Volodymyr 2ibzn 7exbb-k4tu4-mw24y-3zylh-bopa5-fwdsc-f4a3z-45hh4-twpin-4zv4a-yae UP :bar_chart:
Europe Romania Bucharest (bu1) M247 Iancu Aurel c5ssg foa3b-mjkuu-3qlgu-6o64i-2omzt-x6suc-5gzcq-6j2gz-bftru-j5idg-gae UP :bar_chart:
Europe Slovenia Ljubljana (lj1) Posita.si Fractal Labs AG gl27f popmv-gccw7-zincv-gtcgo-jxfby-ar7zq-odvna-4jcs2-cnovy-qiha6-yae UP :bar_chart:
Europe Sweden Stockholm 1 (sh1) Digital Realty DFINITY Operations SA lgp6d a3xcb-ezfy5-yib3b-5bo75-5nok4-kaolh-a6akg-ilxck-qdbph-pwppb-dae UP :bar_chart:

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Voted to adopt proposal #134192.

The proposal replaces healthy Active status node form London 1, UK with Awaiting node from Barcelona 1, ES in order to optimize network topology and to assign set removed node to other subnet where it will improve decentralization. Kinda strange motivation but ok since it does not affect current decentralization.

According to wikipedia “The United Kingdom, made up of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, is an island nation in northwestern Europe”. So fingers crossed this will not be a Brexit from the EU subnet :wink:

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Voted to adopt proposal 134192. The proposal replaces one node from subnet bkfrj:
Removed Node: 3jol6.
Added Node: pekym.

The proposal was verified using the DRE tool to verify the metrics stated. The motivation from the proposal states that node operator h6fpp currently has all his nodes assigned to subnets and in order to optimize overall network topology they want to remove one of it’s nodes.

This proposal as the same motivation as proposal 134191 where I elevated some questions regarding it in my previous review that you can checkout here. Then again I will adopt this proposal but would like better explanation in future proposals.

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A new proposal with id 134542 has been submitted, please take a look.

Click here to open proposal details

Replace a node in subnet bkfrj

Motivation:
The following nodes in subnet bkfrj have been cordoned and need to be removed from the subnet:

Decentralization Nakamoto coefficient changes for subnet bkfrj-6k62g-dycql-7h53p-atvkj-zg4to-gaogh-netha-ptybj-ntsgw-rqe:

    node_provider: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
      data_center: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
data_center_owner: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
             area: 4.00 -> 5.00   (+25%)
          country: 3.00 -> 4.00   (+33%)

Mean Nakamoto comparison: 4.40 → 4.80 (+9%)

Overall replacement impact: (gets better) the average log2 of Nakamoto Coefficients across all features increases from 2.1101 to 2.2575

Details

Nodes removed:

  • lj6xb-t5tcb-dol3s-ay52b-dulse-zyezk-25qyv-l7yqj-4zrc2-hp5qz-sae [health: healthy]

Nodes added:

  • yf2ct-a2auf-nofdz-acf6v-ugwyb-k5f6j-5sr3y-7h3xi-svcdg-mhpgg-aae [health: healthy]
    node_provider                                                              data_center            data_center_owner            area                             country        
    -------------                                                              -----------            -----------------            ----                             -------        
    4jjya-hlyyc-s766p-fd6gr-d6tvv-vo3ah-j5ptx-i73gw-mwgyd-rw6w2-rae  0 -> 1    ba1               1    Adam                    1    Barcelona                   1    BE            1
    7ryes-jnj73-bsyu4-lo6h7-lbxk5-x4ien-lylws-5qwzl-hxd5f-xjh3w-mqe       1    bn1               1    AtlasEdge               1    Barreiro                    1    CH       3 -> 2
    bvcsg-3od6r-jnydw-eysln-aql7w-td5zn-ay5m6-sibd2-jzojt-anwag-mqe       1    br2               1    DEAC               0 -> 1    Brussels Capital            1    CZ            1
    dhywe-eouw6-hstpj-ahsnw-xnjxq-cmqks-47mrg-nnncb-3sr5d-rac6m-nae       1    bu1               1    Data Inn                1    Bucuresti                   1    DE            1
    efem5-kmwaw-xose7-zzhgg-6bfif-twmcw-csg7a-lmqvn-wrdou-mjwlb-vqe       1    es1               1    Digital Realty          1    Geneva                      1    EE            1
    hzqcb-iiagd-4erjo-qn7rq-syqro-zztl6-cpble-atnkd-2c6bg-bxjoa-qae  1 -> 0    fr2               1    Equinix                 1    Hesse                       1    ES            1
    i7dto-bgkj2-xo5dx-cyrb7-zkk5y-q46eh-gz6iq-qkgyc-w4qte-scgtb-6ae       1    ge1               1    Green.ch           1 -> 0    Ljubljana                   1    LT            1
    ivf2y-crxj4-y6ewo-un35q-a7pum-wqmbw-pkepy-d6uew-bfmff-g5yxe-eae       1    lj1               1    HighDC                  1    Riga                   0 -> 1    LV       0 -> 1
    qsdw4-ao5ye-6rtq4-y3zhm-icjbj-lutd2-sbejz-4ajqz-pcflr-xrhsg-jae       1    rg1          0 -> 1    M247                    1    South Moravian Region       1    PT            1
    rbn2y-6vfsb-gv35j-4cyvy-pzbdu-e5aum-jzjg6-5b4n5-vuguf-ycubq-zae       1    sh1               1    Master Internet         1    Stockholm                   1    RO            1
    ucjqj-jmbj3-rs4aq-ekzpw-ltjs3-zrcma-t6r3t-m5wxc-j5yrj-unwoj-mae       1    ta2               1    Nine.Ch                 1    Tallinn                     1    SE            1
    vegae-c4chr-aetfj-7gzuh-c23sx-u2paz-vmvbn-bcage-pu7lu-mptnn-eqe       1    vl2               1    Online                  1    Vilnius                     1    SI            1
    wdjjk-blh44-lxm74-ojj43-rvgf4-j5rie-nm6xs-xvnuv-j3ptn-25t4v-6ae       1    zh3               1    Posita.si               1    Zurich                 2 -> 1                   
    wdnqm-clqti-im5yf-iapio-avjom-kyppl-xuiza-oaz6z-smmts-52wyg-5ae       1    zh5          1 -> 0    Telia DC                1                                                    
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Proposal 134542

TLDR: I’ll adopt. Prior to this proposal this subnet was in violation of the IC Target Topology, with 3 nodes in the same country. With this proposal this number drops down to 2, which is within the specified limits.

Decentralisation Stats

Subnet node distance stats (distance between any 2 nodes in the subnet) →

Smallest Distance Average Distance Largest Distance
EXISTING 27.369 km 1318.881 km 3485.353 km
PROPOSED 95.554 km (+249.1%) 1390.099 km (+5.4%) 3485.353 km

This proposal slightly increases decentralisation, considered purely in terms of geographic distance (and therefore there’s a slight theoretical increase in localised disaster resilience). :+1:

Subnet characteristic counts →

Continents Countries Data Centers Owners Node Providers Node Operator
EXISTING 1 11 13 13 13 13
PROPOSED 1 12 (+8.3%) 13 13 13 13

This proposal slightly improves decentralisation in terms of jurisdiction diversity. :+1:

Largest number of nodes with the same characteristic (e.g. continent, country, data center, etc.) →

Continent Country Data Center Owner Node Provider Node Operator
EXISTING 13 3 1 1 1 1
PROPOSED 13 2 (-33.33%) 1 1 1 1

See here for acceptable limits → Motion 132136

The above subnet information is illustrated below, followed by a node reference table:

Map Description
  • Red marker represents a removed node (transparent center for overlap visibility)
  • Green marker represents an added node
  • Blue marker represents an unchanged node
  • Highlighted patches represent the country the above nodes sit within (red if the country is removed, green if added, otherwise grey)
  • Light grey markers with yellow borders are examples of unassigned nodes that would be viable candidates for joining the subnet according to formal decentralisation coefficients (so this proposal can be viewed in the context of alternative solutions that are not being used)

Node Changes
Action Node Status Continent Country Data Center Owner Node Provider Node Operator
Remove lj6xb UP :bar_chart: Europe Switzerland Zurich 5 (zh5) Green.ch Zondax AG ap2qh
Add yf2ct UNASSIGNED :bar_chart: Europe Latvia Riga 1 (rg1) DEAC MB Patrankos šūvis jptla
Other Nodes
Node Status Continent Country Data Center Owner Node Provider Node Operator
3yok3 UP :bar_chart: Europe Austria South Moravian Region 1 (bn1) Master Internet Lukas Helebrandt zc635
xzpf4 UP :bar_chart: Europe Belgium Brussels 2 (br2) AtlasEdge Allusion oorkg
c2dnc UP :bar_chart: Europe Switzerland Geneva (ge1) HighDC Archery Blockchain SCSp yngfj
w3phu UP :bar_chart: Europe Switzerland Zurich 3 (zh3) Nine.Ch Tomahawk.vc anodw
dzol4 UP :bar_chart: Europe Germany Frankfurt 2 (fr2) Equinix Virtual Hive Ltd 3nu7r
pekym UP :bar_chart: Europe Spain Barcelona 1 (es1) Adam Carbon Twelve gyzti
35ddr UP :bar_chart: Europe Estonia Tallinn 2 (ta2) Telia DC Ivanov Oleksandr kcyob
ldqxr UP :bar_chart: Europe Lithuania Vilnius 2 (vl2) Data Inn George Bassadone inluf
7exbb UP :bar_chart: Europe Portugal Barreiro 1 (ba1) Online Bohatyrov Volodymyr 2ibzn
foa3b UP :bar_chart: Europe Romania Bucharest (bu1) M247 Iancu Aurel c5ssg
popmv UP :bar_chart: Europe Slovenia Ljubljana (lj1) Posita.si Fractal Labs AG gl27f
a3xcb UP :bar_chart: Europe Sweden Stockholm 1 (sh1) Digital Realty DFINITY Stiftung lgp6d

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Voted to adopt proposal #134542.

The proposal replaces cordoned healthy Active status node lj6xb from the ZH5 Data Center in Zurich 5, Switzerland with unassigned healthy Awaiting status node yf2ct from Latvia, with slight improvement change to the decentralization of the subnet.
The motivation makes sense and the provided Forum link included in the summary provides further info, also it can be checked here.

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An update on this proposal. @SvenF pointed out that in ZH5 DC there is more than one node operator, which is something that apparently all of us missed earlier. In ZH5 there is Sygnum - that we want to remove, and also Zondax - a regular gen2 node provider, unrelated to the cordoning.
In this proposal 134542 we are actually removing one Zondax node which is not planned. However, since the decentralization of the subnet actually improves with the replacement, plus we free up a valuable node from a node provider with only a few nodes, my recommendation would be that we proceed with the adoption of the proposal. The summary text of the proposal is slightly misleading, but the advantages of adopting seem high enough to justify the honest mistake.
The cordoning rules in the DRE tool have already been corrected for the future proposals:

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Thanks for the Update will keep in mind to check for this as well for future proposals.

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Voted to adopt proposal 134542.

This proposal replaces 1 node, due to offboarding ZH5 data centre. Data centre details are consistent with the links provided in the proposal but the node being removed belongs to a different node provider from the one who is offboarding nodes. However, decentralisation parameters are improved with respect to country and brought to within the requirements of the target topology, so in this respect the proposal is beneficial.

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Proposal 134542

Vote: ADOPT

Replaces the node lj6xb with the node yf2ct on subnet bkfrj.
Although the proposal states that this replacement was to offboard a node from the ZH5 DC, this node does not belong to the Node Provider which made the post to offboard the nodes. Even so the decentralization coefficients are improved with this proposal by improving the country metric.

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A new proposal with id 134909 has been submitted, please take a look.

Click here to open proposal details

Replace a node in subnet bkfrj

Motivation:
The following nodes in subnet bkfrj have been cordoned and need to be removed from the subnet:

Decentralization Nakamoto coefficient changes for subnet bkfrj-6k62g-dycql-7h53p-atvkj-zg4to-gaogh-netha-ptybj-ntsgw-rqe:

    node_provider: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
      data_center: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
data_center_owner: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
             area: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
          country: 4.00 -> 5.00   (+25%)

Mean Nakamoto comparison: 4.83 → 5.00 (+3%)

Overall replacement impact: (gets better) the average log2 of Nakamoto Coefficients across all features increases from 2.2683 to 2.3219

Details

Nodes removed:

  • c2dnc-3ozfd-ew52a-yvmrc-mjyss-edoch-k7cki-f7vzk-zqapg-aw44i-mqe [health: healthy]

Nodes added:

  • c4xi6-jnokz-uhpvd-lpwoe-hra3h-ph7ia-77clm-xfxf3-lskj2-4fohp-tqe [health: healthy]
    node_provider                                                              data_center            data_center_owner            area                             country        
    -------------                                                              -----------            -----------------            ----                             -------        
    4jjya-hlyyc-s766p-fd6gr-d6tvv-vo3ah-j5ptx-i73gw-mwgyd-rw6w2-rae       1    ba1               1    Adam                    1    Barcelona                   1    BE            1
    7ryes-jnj73-bsyu4-lo6h7-lbxk5-x4ien-lylws-5qwzl-hxd5f-xjh3w-mqe  1 -> 0    bn1               1    Anonstake          0 -> 1    Barreiro                    1    CH       2 -> 1
    bvcsg-3od6r-jnydw-eysln-aql7w-td5zn-ay5m6-sibd2-jzojt-anwag-mqe       1    br2               1    AtlasEdge               1    Brussels Capital            1    CZ            1
    dhywe-eouw6-hstpj-ahsnw-xnjxq-cmqks-47mrg-nnncb-3sr5d-rac6m-nae       1    bu1               1    DEAC                    1    Bucuresti                   1    DE            1
    efem5-kmwaw-xose7-zzhgg-6bfif-twmcw-csg7a-lmqvn-wrdou-mjwlb-vqe       1    es1               1    Data Inn                1    Geneva                 1 -> 0    EE            1
    i7dto-bgkj2-xo5dx-cyrb7-zkk5y-q46eh-gz6iq-qkgyc-w4qte-scgtb-6ae       1    fr2               1    Digital Realty          1    Hesse                       1    ES            1
    ivf2y-crxj4-y6ewo-un35q-a7pum-wqmbw-pkepy-d6uew-bfmff-g5yxe-eae       1    ge1          1 -> 0    Equinix                 1    Ljubljana                   1    HR       0 -> 1
    kos24-5xact-6aror-uofg2-tnvt6-dq3bk-c2c5z-jtptt-jbqvc-lmegy-qae  0 -> 1    lj1               1    HighDC             1 -> 0    Riga                        1    LT            1
    qsdw4-ao5ye-6rtq4-y3zhm-icjbj-lutd2-sbejz-4ajqz-pcflr-xrhsg-jae       1    rg1               1    M247                    1    South Moravian Region       1    LV            1
    rbn2y-6vfsb-gv35j-4cyvy-pzbdu-e5aum-jzjg6-5b4n5-vuguf-ycubq-zae       1    sh1               1    Master Internet         1    Stockholm                   1    PT            1
    ucjqj-jmbj3-rs4aq-ekzpw-ltjs3-zrcma-t6r3t-m5wxc-j5yrj-unwoj-mae       1    ta2               1    Nine.Ch                 1    Tallinn                     1    RO            1
    vegae-c4chr-aetfj-7gzuh-c23sx-u2paz-vmvbn-bcage-pu7lu-mptnn-eqe       1    vl2               1    Online                  1    Vilnius                     1    SE            1
    wdjjk-blh44-lxm74-ojj43-rvgf4-j5rie-nm6xs-xvnuv-j3ptn-25t4v-6ae       1    zg1          0 -> 1    Posita.si               1    Zagreb                 0 -> 1    SI            1
    wdnqm-clqti-im5yf-iapio-avjom-kyppl-xuiza-oaz6z-smmts-52wyg-5ae       1    zh3               1    Telia DC                1    Zurich                      1                   
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Proposal 134909 Review | LORIMER Known Neuron

VOTE: YES

TLDR: Improves decentralisation stats and there is a clear public declaration for the cordoned node which is referred to in the proposal summary.

1 cordoned node replaced with a healthy node in Croatia.

Decentralisation Stats

Subnet node distance stats (distance between any 2 nodes in the subnet) →

Smallest Distance Average Distance Largest Distance
EXISTING 95.554 km 1390.099 km 3485.353 km
PROPOSED 117.012 km (+22.5%) 1388.969 km (-0.1%) 3485.353 km

Subnet characteristic counts →

Continents Countries Data Centers Owners Node Providers Node Operator
EXISTING 1 12 13 13 13 13
PROPOSED 1 13 (+7.7%) 13 13 13 13

This proposal slightly improves decentralisation in terms of jurisdiction diversity. :+1:

Largest number of nodes with the same characteristic (e.g. continent, country, data center, etc.) →

Continent Country Data Center Owner Node Provider Node Operator
EXISTING 13 2 1 1 1 1
PROPOSED 13 1 (-50%) 1 1 1 1

See here for acceptable limits → Motion 132136

The above subnet information is illustrated below, followed by a node reference table:

Map Description
  • Red marker represents a removed node (transparent center for overlap visibility)
  • Green marker represents an added node
  • Blue marker represents an unchanged node
  • Highlighted patches represent the country the above nodes sit within (red if the country is removed, green if added, otherwise grey)
  • Light grey markers with yellow borders are examples of unassigned nodes that would be viable candidates for joining the subnet according to formal decentralisation coefficients (so this proposal can be viewed in the context of alternative solutions that are not being used)

Node Changes
Action Node Status Continent Country Data Center Owner Node Provider Node Operator
Remove c2dnc UP :bar_chart: Europe Switzerland Geneva (ge1) HighDC Archery Blockchain SCSp yngfj
Add c4xi6 UNASSIGNED :bar_chart: Europe Croatia Zagreb 1 (zg1) Anonstake Anonstake 3sm7v
Other Nodes
Node Status Continent Country Data Center Owner Node Provider Node Operator
3yok3 UP :bar_chart: Europe Austria South Moravian Region 1 (bn1) Master Internet Lukas Helebrandt zc635
xzpf4 UP :bar_chart: Europe Belgium Brussels 2 (br2) AtlasEdge Allusion oorkg
w3phu UP :bar_chart: Europe Switzerland Zurich 3 (zh3) Nine.Ch Tomahawk.vc anodw
dzol4 UP :bar_chart: Europe Germany Frankfurt 2 (fr2) Equinix Virtual Hive Ltd 3nu7r
pekym UP :bar_chart: Europe Spain Barcelona 1 (es1) Adam Carbon Twelve gyzti
35ddr UP :bar_chart: Europe Estonia Tallinn 2 (ta2) Telia DC Ivanov Oleksandr kcyob
ldqxr UP :bar_chart: Europe Lithuania Vilnius 2 (vl2) Data Inn George Bassadone inluf
yf2ct UP :bar_chart: Europe Latvia Riga 1 (rg1) DEAC MB Patrankos šūvis jptla
7exbb UP :bar_chart: Europe Portugal Barreiro 1 (ba1) Online Bohatyrov Volodymyr 2ibzn
foa3b UP :bar_chart: Europe Romania Bucharest (bu1) M247 Iancu Aurel c5ssg
popmv UP :bar_chart: Europe Slovenia Ljubljana (lj1) Posita.si Fractal Labs AG gl27f
a3xcb UP :bar_chart: Europe Sweden Stockholm 1 (sh1) Digital Realty DFINITY Stiftung lgp6d

*This comment references the latest comment in the Subnet Management - General Discussion thread only to generate an automated cross-link from the general thread (to improve topic navigation).


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Proposal 134909 | Tim - CodeGov

Vote: Adopt

This proposal replaces node c2dnc which appears in the dashboard as “Status: Active” for the stated reason “offboarding the second rack of nodes in the GE1 DC after 48 months”. This node is listed to be handed over in this post. As shown in the proposal, decentralisation parameters are improved with respect to country and remain within the requirements of the target topology.

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Proposal #134909 — Zack | CodeGov

Vote: Adopted
Reason:
The proposal replaces cordoned healthy Active status node c2dnc from Geneva, with
unassigned healthy Awaiting status node c4xi6 from Zagreb, Croatia. This improves the decentralization of the subnet.
The motivation makes sense and the provided Forum link included in the summary provides further info.

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Proposal 134909 – LaCosta | CodeGov

Vote: ADOPT

Replaces cordoned node c2dnc with node c4xi6 on subnet bkfrj.
The reason for this proposal is to offboard the GE1 DC consistent with forum posts made on the forum thread used for posts regarding the renovation/sell of Gen-1 node machines by NPs.
Both the NP and DC stated in the forum post match the ones from the node being removed in the proposal.
The node being removed was also stated here.

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