Seed Round Access

Actually so far there has been not a single no vote. Internet Computer Network Status meaning that it is highly likely that you will have a ton of time to claim your seed neuron.

Correction: not a single no vote but 715 voting power against the proposal and about 42,5M voting power in favour so I think my original point still stands

What you think by “ton of time”. There is just 15hours left…

I think you misunderstand the proposal. This proposal doesn’t mean you can’t claim your seed neuron anymore when you have your seed phrase.

If I understand correctly, someone will be able to claim my neurons if dfinity foundation do believe them…

It is the exact opposite of this. The DFINITY foundation won’t be able to claim your neuron anymore when this proposal passes which at this point seems very likely.

They will be able to give my unclaimed neurons to someone without seed…

This is the proposal text:

Seed allotments that were unclaimed after 6 months were going to be swept to a foundation-controlled neuron, which would allow the foundation to arbitrate claims by those who say they lost their keys, and forward them on appropriately. Owing to difficulties it has encountered, the foundation realizes it cannot play this role.

This proposal removes the sweep mechanism, except for four participants that have already been successfully processed by the foundation. In the future, an NNS update could make it possible for the NNS, which runs under the control of the decentralized community, to perform this role itself.

Meaning that this proposal removes the ability of the foundation to do that.

I think that you don’t understand what I’m saying.

Can someone from the team answer the questions I asked above?
I believe the dfinity foundation that I will be able to still claim my neurons with my seed

KYC page not working…
This is a nightmare

Funny how you suddenly want to claim when this proposal came out…

But I don’t judge…

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If you all don’t want your seed round neurons or have decided to abandon them for some kind of strange protest, ICDevs would be happy to take them off your hands and lock them in for 8 years.
:man_shrugging:

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Hi there :wave:

Michael from DFINITY here.

“So, basically I have now 16 hours to find how to claim??”

No… your seed phrase will still be valid even if the proposal passes. If ideal [for you], you can still wait to claim your voting neurons/governance tokens.

“Can someone confirm that when I hold valid seed round I will be able to claim my neurons? and also will these neurons continue to earn?”

Yes… you will still be able to use your seed phrase to access your seed round neurons, which will continue to generate governance rewards.

Hope that helps :metal:

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I also got the memo that we only have limited time before seed participant neurons are swept. I don’t have many tokens which is why I waited to claim (was waiting for less technical instructions), but now I’m going through the process and am stuck on one part.

In order to access the KYC form, you need to input a “DFN Address” (aka my “legacy address”). This I did successfully. Now that I’m on the KYC form, it asks for two additional addresses: 1) “Enter your ICP Address” and 2) “Enter your Principal ID”. I know my Principal ID, but what does the ICP Address field refer to? Am I meant to re-input my DFN Address in this field or something else?

Thanks!

PS - while going through the process I noticed the link on the seed participant instructions page to NNS canister interfaces no longer works, which seems like a crucial step before claiming.

So just to make sure, if I did the kyc process are my neurons considered claimed?

And is there any update about a non-technical solution (preferably using ledger) for seed investors?

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I can answer on the technical side (Ledger Nano) since I am involved here.

I posted an update on Ledger Nano a few days ago on the relevant thread: [Soft Launch] Improved IC Staking Documentation and Experience - #19 by diegop

TLDR:

  • Ledger Nano team is still reviewing the integration so not available for consumer-facing version
  • the ICP integration is available on Ledger Nano’s developer mode (and has been for 4-6 weeks)
  • I have not updated docs to reflect this because I want to make sure Leder promotes it to consumer mode.
  • I post weekly updates on the staking thread: [Soft Launch] Improved IC Staking Documentation and Experience - #19 by diegop
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Just to be clear, it seems the message got distorted through the grapevine, as @CashBowie says above,

No… your seed phrase will still be valid even if the proposal passes. If ideal [for you], you can still wait to claim your voting neurons/governance tokens.

Good question. I am not sure what constitutes as “claimed” to be honest. I will ping someone who knows more to reply in this thread.

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No, the KYC process is independent from claiming.

At genesis, neurons were pre-created and configured to earn but had their controller set to the GTC. This was because the real owner’s principal could not be known in advance. Claiming essentially means you tell the GTC your principal so that controllership can be moved over from the GTC to your principal. KYC isn’t required to do that and, conversely, doing KYC doesn’t do the claiming for you.
(GTC = genesis token canister)

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In other words - I will wait for the non technical solution to claim :man_shrugging:

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If this proposal passes, I should be able to claim everything I am entitled to at a later date.

If this proposal doesn’t pass, everything I’m entitled to will be swept away. What’s my recourse in that situation?

Fwiw, it passed: Proposal: 28756 - ICP Dashboard

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