Querio is live: Search the Internet Computer

very handy. Nice work!

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Ok, but how do you trust them?

Web3 is all about decentralisation, open-source, and user ownership. Everything that I read so far seems like you use AWS, and Google: probably with special web2 search software that will be hard to port to the IC. Elastic search?

The forthcoming plan is to:

  • Publish the white paper and roadmap
  • Create a campaign on Funded
  • Launch Querio SNS DAO

This reads like a cash grab.

As another poster mentioned above, the timing is very suspicious.

You could have released a few weeks after the native IC search engine did its SNS and then you would need to build a superior on-chain web3 native version to compete. Rather you went for the ‘steal the thunder’ approach for points two and three above.

Can you please share how you plan to make this more web3?
How will this alter you current business model and search technology?

How and when will you port your database and open-source it?

Recently Origyn, CanScale, and Kinic open-sourced their version: CanDB.
Do you plan on using or contributing to this?

Thank you.

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Ok, but how do you trust them?

Web3 is all about decentralisation, open-source, and user ownership. Everything that I read so far seems like you use AWS, and Google: probably with special web2 search software that will be hard to port to the IC. Elastic search?

@fuzzykitten, thanks for your feedback. By using Google Analytics we wanted to track the impact that Querio has on the community. We take into account the possibility of replacing it with a decentralised alternative once we move on-chain.

The forthcoming plan is to:

  • Publish the white paper and roadmap
  • Create a campaign on Funded
  • Launch Querio SNS DAO

This reads like a cash grab.

As you may have noticed, we financed the project ourselves and have the ability to continue doing so. However, to establish a more stable foundation and provide the community with an opportunity to invest in Querio, we will soon be launching a Funded campaign. The future Funded campaign comes naturally as we received many requests from the community.“

Do you agree that having an alternative where the search is actually working fast and returns accurate results is beneficial for the community? We decided te release as soon as possible to provide Querio to the community.

Querio represents an investment we’re actively making, because we believe in its potential. We have the right knowledge to do it. Part of the team has been previously working at Consensys and have +15 years of software development experience each. We believe in us building the fastest and most accurate Web3 search engine and we’ll not stop until this is accomplished.

As another poster mentioned above, the timing is very suspicious.

You could have released a few weeks after the native IC search engine did its SNS and then you would need to build a superior on-chain web3 native version to compete. Rather you went for the ‘steal the thunder’ approach for points two and three above.

The timing is purely coincidental, not a plan orchestrated by us. We concluded that Kinic’s SNS launch is not something that concerns us. They’ll do their job we’ll do ours.

Can you please share how you plan to make this more web3?
How will this alter you current business model and search technology?

How and when will you port your database and open-source it?

Our primary goal was to give the community a needed tool that actually works. Now we’re focusing on the process of transferring Querio code on-chain. Our vision for Querio is to evolve into a cross-chain web3 search engine, by expanding the scope of its searches to cover other blockchains.

We’ll soon publish the whitepaper and roadmap, where you’ll find all the details. We’ll announce it on the forum when the time comes.

Recently Origyn, CanScale, and Kinic open-sourced their version: CanDB.
Do you plan on using or contributing to this?

Currently there’s no plan on using or contributing to CanDB.

Thank you.

Thank you for requesting clarifications and hope we addressed them right.

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I think Kinic is also like a cash grab. With these 2 search engine projects, with the current demos, I would not participate anyone in SNS.

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We do hope that you will reconsider your position in the near future. As we are committed to doing everything in our power to meet the community’s expectations and deliver the best possible outcomes.

Could you provide us with suggestions on how to improve Querio?

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Since you mentioned that you aren’t planning to use CanDb, what are you planning to use if you move to chain? Is it going to be 100% on chains or partially? Competition is good for all and wish success to all. Are you planning to be fully on chain before the Funded?

I think kinic may be powerful in technology, and querio may be more in line with usage habits! Since the same market is the same, before the market is established, I think the two of you can merge into one company and jointly expand the market. Wouldn’t it be better? After all, icp users may only choose one in the end

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Thanks @aSpace1. At the moment the plan is to bring Querio partially on-chain. This will be done before the Funded.

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@icper I believe that competition drives innovation, and I am confident that Querio will become more and more powerful.

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This is actually the better idea. If they worked together on the same open-source it would make a super power. This is how I see web3 working well.

One open-source 100% on-chain with a SNS.
One closed-source and partially on-chain.

Does not seem like an additive contribution to the space. They both need to be Open-source and 100% on-chain, and ideally working together in some way.

I still stick to my point of view, as a member of the icp community, why not form a common goal to expand the market? Some projects only support Plug wallet login, some only support bitfinity wallet login, users have to download more wallets, why no one comes out to unify? Two search engine projects are also competing, and we have to choose one of them. In fact, if you two work together is what we want, SNS may be more prosperous than imagined! If you guys insist on competing, many people will be bothered and won’t even make an SNS investment for either party?

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I agree with this. ICP is needs unity at this time.
All devs should be helping each other and adding code that is shared and usable by all.
Not competing with off-chain resources like they are on-chain; it does not add anything new or helpful into the ecosystem.

Will you reconsider using and contributing to any of the on-chain database systems that people are already using? Will you consider contributing to open-source in the ecosystem?

Lastly, SNS is only for 100% on-chain apps. That is the way the SNS secures them.
It is not ideal to have SNS proposals for things that are not even near to being on-chain yet.

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This website isn’t hosted on Chain. Why should querio?

Why not just contribute to the open-source tools Kinic and others are using for on-chain search?
This is what is confusing. Then anyone can use it for their sites. Also not sure what “actually works” means as above many mention that both Kinic and Querio need improvements. Another reason they should be contributing to Internet Computer open-source.

@icper @fuzzykitten thanks for your comments.

We released Querio to contribute to the community. At the moment there’s no need to login with a wallet, anyone can use Querio as it is.

The frontend as well as the search engine will eventually become open source.

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We’re pleased to announce that a recent update to Querio has been made and is now live!

With its latest changes Querio:

  • returns improved search results
  • displays cleaner content snippets that highlight the searched keywords
  • has a new ranking algorithm, which enhances the searching experience
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Thanks for starting this project and congrats to what you achieved and launched in such a short time.

I don’t understand most of the criticism raised in this thread. What the ICP needs at this stage is experimentation. Two small teams with different ideas is better than one large team that has to compromise. Open-source code is only beneficial when it’s mature. I prefer if people take their time with it instead of publishing half-baked code that doesn’t help anyone.

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I am apprehensive about the privacy implications of using Google Analytics.

Thank you, @timo! We appreciate your thoughts and hope that more members of the community share similar perspectives.

Thanks @Phasma for expressing your privacy concerns. It is worth noting that other dApps operating on ICP also use Google Analytics.

As previously mentioned, we want to track the impact that Querio has on the community. GA4 respects user’s privacy, but we take into account the possibility of replacing it with a decentralised alternative once we move on-chain.