New proposal
Dear All,
After numerous shipment delays and other challenges, it is with great excitement and enthusiasm to announce that we have successfully onboarded (3) nodes in the dr1 data center. Please review and vote on Proposal 127677 here:
This proposal will update our node provider reward configuration and fully meets the new Dec 1. purchase deadline requirement. The proof of hardware order and contract commitment dated 10/30/2023 can be found on our node provider wiki page here:
In particular, thanks and recognition to @SvenF, @icarus and the devs for helping us along the way.
Looking forward to contributing in the months and years ahead. Wishing you all the best!
Kind Regards,
Alex
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Hi @SvenF The 7 Nodes that were approved by Proposal 124524 have now been onboarded. As per the changed procedures introduced late last year I have attached proof that the machines were ordered before 1 December 2023. I have also included the emails that communicate updating the node_pipeline.csv file to include these nodes.
Thank you
Greg - Anypoint Pty Ltd
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Thanks for your reply, that explains a lot. What is still a bit vague on my part is how to go about setting up the node machine after purchase. As you mentioned and as Iâve seen on other pages, datacenters have been mentioned a couple of times. I am interested in purchasing a node machine, but if my understanding is correct, this is not something I can setup just anywhere.
Same for the node operator record, if one purchases a node machine strictly for setting it up for IC, then it wouldnât have any record. Sorry if thereâs any silly questions there, but ive only been on investing side of the coin thus far and im willing to also do it by providing the node.
Thanks for your patience
Hi @CodeLancasterX you are correct on the node machine location and data center location. The reasoning behind the IC Target Topology is to decentralise the network across several different dimensions, i.e. node providers, data centers, and location. This means that per subnet (we have 37 subnets currently), there can be only one node machine for each node provider in the subnet, one node machine for each data center in the subnet, and two node machines for each country in the subnet. So yes, the location of the Data Center, and the number of node machines you want to onboard as a Node Provider are important for the decentralisation of the IC. There is a optimization tool available on the wiki where you can validate whether new node machines would actually help the decentralization.
Not sure what your question regarding node operator record refers to. A new node machine, once onboarded, is âready to join a subnetâ. Depending on whether additional nodes are needed in a subnet, for example if another node is unhealthy or dead due to hardware issues, that new node machine will be âswappedâ for the unhealthy/dead node machine, and hence joins the subnet. Another reasons for swapping a new node machine for another node machine in a subnet might be to improve the decentralization in that subnet.
Hope this clarifies.
Thanks @Anypoint, is it possible to add this document to the wikipage for Anypoint as well?
Hi Sven,
I have done this and it said it is in Moderation ⌠hasnât popped out the other side âŚ
Attached are the 2 pdfâs ⌠FYI
Greg
Apologies have added the links to the Anypoint Page - page now in Moderation. Here are the links to the documents,
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Hello all
I hope this message finds you all in good health. I am writing to formally register as a Node Provider under Natalia Kulesha . I understand that there are currently no vacant slots in the topology. I will wait until they become available.
You can find my new proposal to join the network by clicking on this link: Proposal Number 127688
My self-declaration documents are also uploaded to the Internet Computer Wiki under Natalia Kulesha Internet Computer Wiki
Should you have any questions or require further information, please do not hesitate to reach out to me. I am grateful for your support and votes in favor of accepting my proposal. Thank you.
Best Regards
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Greetings, My name is Celso Legra Martinez, currently working in Tampa as a field engineer for Sitetech Services. But as an entrepreneur and lover of cryptography I decided to start my company Legra-Neurons. Last year in November I began acquiring the hardware to provide services as a node operator to help ICP grow and achieve the decentralization milestone.
You can find my new Proposal : Proposal
My Self-Declaration can be found at: Self-Declaration
Hash: 4564132FD087D2E82FBC68E8DC7FDFA7BC8456735827C46B4EFD15A9BAC64104
Proof of hardware purchase:
As proof of my identity:Proof of Identity
!
Not only my investment is with the community providing decentralization, but also in ICP as an investor. Here my Neuron ID â11376630100357207701â where I reinvested part of the hardware that did not meet the December 1st limit to enter as a Node Operator.
Thanks for the opportunity to be par of this great community and project.
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Hi everyone,
My name is Gael Chloe, Iâm an independent investor and part of the IC community since 2022.
Iâm writing to formally register as a Node Provider under the entity NODAL CAPITAL. I would like to start by adding 6 nodes in Brazil.
I plan to increase the number of nodes in Brazil in the future and extend to Uruguay and Colombia. My vision is to see IC nodes all over the world, and it would be a privilege to be the first node provider in South America.
My self-declaration documents, the Company Certificate, and my Proof of Identity are uploaded to the Internet Computer Wiki under NODAL CAPITAL.
File: NODAL CAPITAL Self-declaration.pdf
The SHA256 hash of the linked PDF is: 0af318f022d942aacd55b2bca683437b8787bee7fbd88dee0eefefde073d3bef . _________________________________________________________
FIle: NODAL CAPITAL Certificate.pdf
The SHA256 hash of the linked PDF is: 9c0ff8a4bd195b0dc76b0c4bdd4e46d33b7e7484b07696bdbfe5f57594c8c6ad . _____________________________________________________
File: INSS_CNIS Registration Data.pdf
The SHA256 hash of the linked PDF is: b65f280cac3a916f56022f492acdbfffaacbfacfd44f9e1152bc3be5701d5176 .
Note: My post and the .pdf files uploaded to the website are still under review by the moderation team. I will attach some screenshots; maybe they will be useful.
Could someone kindly tell me if it is necessary to wait for the review of the publication of the documents on the wiki.internetcomputer.org before submitting the proposal for voting?
Should you have any questions or require further information, please do not hesitate to reach out to me. I am grateful for your support and votes in favor of accepting my proposal!
Itâs a pleasure to be part of the IC community.
Gael Chloe
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Hi community,
Iâve submitted a Node Provider Proposal under Nodal Capital, starting with 6 nodes in Brazil and plans for expansion.
See my full proposal at the link below and vote to support!
I kindly ask for your votes in favor of approving. Please consider approving the Nodal Capital Node Provider.
Feel free to ask any questions below.
Thank you!
Hi all, I need to update the node operator record. I want to relocate my node from Espacio Rack to IPCore Datacenter because Espacio Rack DC cannot provide me with IPv6. The link.
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Hi @gaelchloe, thanks for submitting the NP proposal. Please note that currently, the IC has reached target topology, see this forum post. It means that no new node machines will be accepted to the IC network for the time being. Once the subnets are reaching capacity and more subnets are required to run all applications, the community can decide to increase the target topology again and allow additional node machines to the network.
So for now, it is not possible to onboard any new node machines unless these machines were already bought before the 1st December when the target topology and optimization tooling was approved by the community. You can already submit your node proposal proposal so you are prepared to submit a data center proposal and node operator proposal once it is decided that more nodes machines are allowed.
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Thank you for the update and clarification. I understand that currently no new node machine will be accepted on the IC network. I will keep an eye on new decisions in the Forum about the addition of new node machines to the network.
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I need to replace node operator record, I want to relocate my node from Espacio Rack to IPCore datacenter, because Espacio Rack DC canât provide me ipv6. Target topology hasnât changed because DC is in the same city. Please vote for my proposals
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Hello All,
I hope this message finds you well! I am writing to formally register as a Node Provider under the Technical University of Munich - we will also need our own datacenter later on.
You can find my new proposal to join the network by clicking on this link - proposal 128080.
The self-declaration documents are also uploaded to the Internet Computer Wiki under the Technical University of Munich.
In case you have any questions, please do not hesitate to reach out to me. We are grateful for your support and votes in favor of accepting our proposal!
P.S. we are aware of the current limitations, just want to proceed with the possible steps as we already have the HW ready.
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Hi,
Could you ELI5 why the IC has decided to stop onboarding new nodes?
I understand that the âtarget topologyâ is reached but isnât the more the better? And if some community members are still interested, why stop here?
Iâve drafted the pros and cons of rejecting all new new-node proposals:
Pros
- ???
Cons
- On socials, critics are saying that the IC controls node providers, jeopardizing decentralization.
- Decentralization is often evaluated by the number of nodes and even if this is an oversimplification, itâs something the average joe can understand; topology isnât.
- More node providers means more advocates who are actively spreading the word about the IC.
- Some people havenât seen your post and are still making proposals. Some influencers are investigating how much it would cost to make a node and saying theyâre interested to build one. Rejecting proposals brings confusion imho.
Could you help me fill in the âProsâ section? 
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Hi all,
Thank you for all the support so far to our proposal! We have less than 36 hours for the proposal and still need additional votes. We would greatly appreciate your votes!
Links to: proposal and self-declaration.
As always, if you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. We are grateful for your support and votes to accept our proposal!
Have a great rest of the week!
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Hi @SvenF, it seems our proposal is going to be rejected. Could you please assist us with what is wrong with it so we can resubmit it?
Thank you!
Hi @marcpp,
I just want to start this by saying I do completely agree with the sentiment. It isnât ideal that new nodes cannot be added. But at the same time, I do see why it is best to put a hold on it for now.
Strictly speaking, the IC does not have a ban on onboarding new nodes. I believe it is more a community sentiment ie. DFINITY will vote against new node machine onboarding proposals. And even though it is getting better, DFINITY does have quite a bit of voting power (not to mention that most voters follow DFINITY) and so it is likely that onboarding new node machines would be rejected.
That being said, I believe submitting a proposal to be a node provider and a new data center is still fair game. And if you are able to make a really strong case for your nodes to be onboarded, then maybe there is a chance 
Regarding the proâs and conâs, I think a similar one could be made for accepting new node proposals if we strictly talk about proâs and conâs for the network.
I believe that adding nodes to the network has two main purposes, adding to the geographic decentralization and adding to compute capacity.
As the target topology states, adding new nodes anywhere doesnât really improve geographic decentralization, as with the current topology, no country would be present in a subnet more than two or three times, depending on the size of that subnet. Then for compute capacity, the target topology, which already allocates spare capacity for expected growth, requires 751 nodes, which is about 50% of the total nodes that are already onboarded to the network. So adding nodes wouldnât make a significant contribution in adding compute capacity.
Overall, I believe the main issue is that there isnât a significant âproâ for the network when it comes to adding nodes. And say nodes were added, it would be a waste of resources: the node would be consuming resources and not actually producing useful work for the network.
Like I mentioned at the start, I do agree with your POV. But at the same time, it wouldnât be very responsible/sustainable to set up nodes just to sit in a rack, not contributing useful work to the network.
While it is not ideal, I think this temporary pause gives aspiring NPs a chance to plan well and potentially collaborate to form the most cost-effective and possibly green operations for when the gates open again 