I look at a very objective metric (x followers for dfinitg) and over the last year and a half that number is actually down. Caffeine isnt the answer. Its clear that those in charge of growth are very incompetent. Also hubs seem to be a waste of money because nothing tangible comes from them at all. They dont support local innovation at all.
Case and point. Sneed does more for the eco than most hub projects. Clown too.
Why is nobody talking about this?
I want to point out that im not being a hater. I support dfinity, and am all in with my money on icp (like most of us are). Im just tired of the fact that theres no actual benefit to the icp eco. Why not hire that many more developers instead of a “growth team” that sucks money from the eco (via sell pressure to pay their wages and operational costs).
I think that would be better to hire developers and build the ecosystem…
These grants and projects that appeared are just useless.
Agreed. We shouldnt be like “ooh look lil billy wants to build X (an obviously needed service), lets support his dreams!” And splurge with 100s of thousands of dollars. We should instead hire full time experienced devs to simply build those good products and ship them to the public. This notion that hubs are strategically useful (or whatever our “growth” team does) is childish.
Caffeine = useful product. Ship it when ready and people using good product = best growth function for icp.
Why not simply work on useful products in-house, ship them, no need for SNSs, simply have them use ICP and viola, major usecases. Zero need for “growth” when the actual demand is growing.
Even small teams working on different products under DFINITY’s management would likely achieve better results than what these current projects are delivering. They could even be paid in ICP.
This idea that developers must cost $200K per year is unrealistic. There are talented people around the world who work for much less and deliver far more. I work remotely in a team for a company, and we deliver every day—consistently and efficiently—while being paid significantly less than that.
The people behind these projects seem to live in a bubble, believing that simply handing out money will magically result in good products. It won’t. Most people are primarily profit-driven. If they’re not part of a committed team with real accountability, they won’t deliver.
There’s one crucial skill that’s being overlooked everywhere: responsibility—commitment to a goal, to a team, and to delivering results. Without that, no amount of funding will lead to success.
Just food for thought, we were introduced to ICP through Hubs work. That resulted in ICP devs working on ICP from Egypt. That means a 100 million population market with less than 100 blockchain devs mainly on eth had an addition of 20-30 devs with varying ICP know how(that’s international teams). It also led to investments focused on ICP as a national infrastructure here, an equipment-space in over 3500 m2 focused on ICP devs and projects in a partnership with the financial regulator and the national stock exchange. I don’t understand how Clown..or Sneed would reach global populations who do not care at all about crypto (zero attention). I completely agree that existing projects(which are community funded btw) are having governance and transparency issues, but I don’t understand how that reflects on global out reach for places that would produce international teams working on ICP like you described.
X followers? Bro you are looking at the wrong metric. I was here when icp had 5 mill cycle burn rate. Now look where it is. What are you even talking about?
Dfinity has a large number of developers, but they are useless