Thank you for the kind words
Good points here. If what we were to sum up the problems we saw which ultimately caused us to stop believing in IC as the logical next step to Bitcoin and Ethereum:
- A supposed 9-fig builders fund unable to to solve “grade 12 html/css” UX for newcomers.
- Technical hurdles being defined by Dfinity Foundation and not actual developers/users.
- Dfinity organization hierarchy / elitist culture of angel investors, venture capitalists, Dfinity employees, and other insiders, which is a clear contradiction of building a world computer for 8 billion people.
If I were to make a suggestion for roadmap in 2023 to solve these:
- Allocate resources to making the UX world class for all of crypto with a subtle touch of IC
- Invest more in growing a builder community (i.e EthGlobal, Solana Hacker Houses) and/or host a yearly conference to better identify and empower real merit over online trolls
- Create a roadmap to either dissolve Dfinity or make it possible for anyone in the world to join and contribute to a 100% open source codebase with proper incentives.
- An “egoless” leader and messaging from the top.
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I feel the same and I really think they are lying about what they actually done.
I know ICPL and their website definitely doesn’t worth 1 million. Same as this Goku guy, so he has 1 million for designer and developer spent but has no budget on marketing? Besides, I really don’t think developing a wallet in crypto can cost 1 million, if so then it has to be some level product (which I don’t think any product has that quality in IC)
@lei I know ICPL and they have talked to some projects I worked for, from my experience with them this is a very unprofessional team.
They lied a lot about their event or their relationship with some crypto-institutions. And based on this thread, they clearly don’t have a close relationship with foundation. It is very funny because they told our project in a totally different way.
Same as Earth wallet here. @Goku you spent 1 million to develop your wallet and wants the foundation to do the marketing for you? They didn’t provide 25K and you just stop developing? despite the fact that you don’t have anyone running your twitter.
Dfinity Foundation clearly has many problems but I think it’s very unfair for projects like you to put all blames on them while clearly you guys didn’t do a good job about developing your own team.
This thread should be archived as whatever points the original criticism raised have now turned into one-off rants for personal grievances that don’t add more to the discussion.
Decentralization is not easy. There’s a very real problem with most implementations of decentralization: it doesn’t work in a vacuum, yet many seem to magically believe it does. It’s a function of the work people do to make it happen (which is one of its most resilient features). Dfinity has made a platform that gives developers a chance at a future where blockchain is not just the custodial instrument of incumbent tech and its financiers, which is itself a huge step towards a viable decentralized future.
The grant program has produced a lot of genuine work–much of it open source, some of it turning a profit–even if a few opportunists did only as much work as necessary to complete the first payout and run. It is light years head of funding programs on other blockchains.
Dfinity has a long ways to go but has come just as far. If you have problems with Dfinity or the IC for not doing x y or z, ask yourself: do you think Apple would have succeeded if they had started out specifically trying to build an iPhone first? Because that’s very similar to what’s actually going on: Dfinity has been busy working on the foundational functionality of its platform before focusing on creating examples of what will be possible with that functionality when it is more readily available. In the meantime many developers are already making such examples.
(*Admittedly Apple is not the best example nowadays as far as their developer tax, closed app island, and sweat shop labor practices which honestly do live up to “thinking different” in any shape or form.)
I’m not saying there aren’t problems or that there isn’t areas where Dfinity couldn’t do better, but simply complaining due to personal dissatisfaction is not helping this ecosystem at all. Why not figure out a better tokenization model that makes use of what’s possible on the IC? Or better yet, develop it? Or organize a group to crowd source creating it? Even a canister hosted petition thread that could provide an alternative to the NNS would do so much more than another disgruntled, inflammatory reply.
All that source code is publically available and cycles are cheaper than ever.
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This is where a CEO position and having business minded leadership could have a huge Impact. I think your frustrations are echoed throughout the community even we don’t talk about it. The foundation has been making some progress addressing some of what you’re talking about but more is needed.
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Complaining about complaints is worse imo. Creates an echo chamber / cult mentality. Complaints are not an issue, they can be indicative of something not being right if coming from enough people. Just my 2 cents.
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This post is very helpful