Because you can still use the upgraded II. For dapps that still use V1, it looks like nothing changed.
This 
“introduce a proposal”
How? If v1 ask you for a number, how do you use a no-number V2 II? Could you give an example?
Upgrade. Go to nns. Sign in. Type number.
Go to caffeine.ai. Sign in.
Go to forum.dfinity.org. say: “ wow it worked “
I agree with this. Especially since 1.0 offer seed recovery. It should not discontinue.
When I do this I’m involving Microsoft with my ii.
My email, profile picture etc is all now connected with my neurons and ICP accounts.
ICP is about blockchain with no dependency on big tech.
Now we have dependency on big tech all completely unnecessary.
If someone wants the convenience of biometrics, linking to apple, google or microsoft that is fine.
I do not. I’d rather remember my numbers, have seed phrase and register my trusted devices.
Now if apple, google or microsoft decide to suspend me or remove my account I lose access to my ICP.
Truly outrageous.
Well said, the main reason I decided to use any IC dapps was because of the anonimity assurances provided by Internet Identity. If II 2.0 removes that while deprecating II v1, I wouldn’t want anything to do with IC dapps anymore.
II 2.0 doesn’t remove any anonymity assurances. Why do you guys think that?
It uses passkeys, same as what 1.0 does.
I cannot access without dependency on 3rd party big tech.
what am I misunderstanding?
Doesn’t it support logging in from Gmail?
Gmail is far from anonymous.
are you serious?
Being dependent on gmail to access my “fully on chain” crypto
wtf is going on?
I can’t figure out from your messages what big tech dependency you mean. Do you mean your hardware (laptop, phone, biometric scanner), your OS, your browser, some big tech cloud infrastructure, etc?
And I can’t figure out what exactly you mean is different in 2.0 vs 1.0. What is forced on you in 2.0 that you think is not ok that is handled differently and ok in 1.0?
I see no difference except that 2.0 automatically finds matching passkeys on your local device where 1.0 relies on the anchor number to find them.
Doesn’t V2 rely on OAuth to authenticate via Google/Apple/Microsoft?
I personally don’t see a problem with it as long as local passkeys are still available (which is the case) but it seems to me that this is what people are talking about
And this:
Can’t agree more, When I use ii2.0, I have no idea how to transfer them between my PC and mobile phone, and it feels very inconvenient. Why can’t I just use II1.0? It’s unknown who wants to log in to ICP’s service using the centralized Google
is it really true? .. I heard there’s something called Howdy on Linux. Doesn’t it work similarly to Windows Hello?
I don’t use linux, but I wonder what will happen if windows stops working for me - and I don’t have that damn external security key.
That’s why I’m waiting for the recovery phrase in the II 2.0 .. and I still can’t wait. How much longer??
NNS uses 1.0 but it’s not up to you when it switches to 2.0
My Internet Identity 2.0 adventures…
I upgraded to Internet Identity 2 on my Android. However, at the create passkey stage it added the passkey to Google Password Manager. No other option was available, even though Bitwarden was my default password manager.
But then I ran into this problem…
On desktop, if I went to an app that required Internet identity 2 (e.g., Caffeine), if I clicked Continue with Passkey → Use an existing passkey, I was snookered. How to access the passkey that’s in Google Password Manager?
I did a bit of back and forth with one of the Chat AIs.
AI: Why Did the Passkey Get Added to Google Password Manager?
On Android, even if you set Bitwarden as your default password manager, Google Password Manager is often the only available option for passkey creation and storage—especially for system-level passkey prompts. This is a known limitation: Android currently prioritizes Google Password Manager for passkeys, and many users have reported that third-party managers like Bitwarden are not always offered as an option, even when set as default.How to Access the Passkey from Google Password Manager on Desktop
Sync Google Password Manager Across Devices:
If you use Chrome (or another Chromium-based browser) and are signed into the same Google Account on both your Android and desktop, Google Password Manager can sync passkeys between devices.Make sure you are signed into Chrome on your desktop with the same Google Account as your Android device.
Try Logging In Again:
When prompted to use a passkey, Chrome should offer to use a synced passkey from your Google Account.
If it does, you’ll see your passkey as an option to select and authenticate.
The only way to do this was to use Chrome. As it happens, I did have Chrome installed, even though it’s not my default browser. So, I was able to execute the above step. But then how to get to my desired workflow using my default browser plus Bitwarden?
I replied to the AI…
“If it works I assume what I could do is
Install Bitwarden in Chrome.
Log into Internet Identity 2 in Chrome using the passkey from Google Password Manager.
Then create another passkey and I think Bitwarden should pop up giving me the option to add it there.
Then I can move back to Vivaldi, and when I select Continue with Passkey → Use an existing passkey, I should get a passkey selection popup from Bitwarden.
So, henceforth I can use Vivaldi or any other browser to which I’ve installed the Bitwarden extension.”
That worked. So with hindsight I would have been better off performing the upgrade to Internet Identity 2 on desktop and I assume when it created the passkey it would automatically have popped up Bitwarden. Then back on my phone I could have retrieved the passkey from there.
So, if you have no objection to using Bitwarden or equivalent for syncing passkeys, that is a solution for II 2.0.
You only need to do so if you plan to use Caffeine, which requires II 2.