Our side of the story
We would like to refute the allegations that have been raised against us and share our perspective on where we are.
In the interest of COMPLETE TRANSPARENCY, we Dolr.ai/Yral Dapp would be happy to answer any questions asked of us.
We have NEVER hosted or been involved in ANY node provider activity
Our experience in building scalable Dapps on the IC has culminated in us building these 4 Dapps:
- https://yral.com/ - Decentralized TikTok alternative
- https://hotornot.wtf/ - Content that doesn’t conform to app store guidelines are automatically segregated here. Powered by AI. Our answer to having a clean feed on Yral.
- https://icpump.fun/ - Anyone can create their own token in seconds. No gas, no bonding curve. An ICRC 1,2,3 compliant token in seconds
- https://pumpdump.wtf/ - Fair Token P2P game that’s built on top of ICPump.fun memecoins
The frontends for these are hosted off chain to be able to use server-side rendering using Leptos, a Rust based WASM framework. The code and deployment details for all of it can be found here:
The entire backend for this is hosted on IC canisters using a massively multi canister architecture. The code for it can be found here:
We currently have the largest fleet of IC canisters, close to around 500k canisters across all the general app subnets. This is owing to us having an architecture that spins up a single canister every time a user signs up with us across any of the above 4 apps.
Naturally, this incurs a significant cost as can be seen here
So, we’ve been wracking our brains all this time and iterating constantly and vehemently trying to figure out different hyper-scale architectures that can drastically reduce costs for us while still letting us maintain the kind of distributed scale we’ve been trying to solve for.
DOLR ai is our attempt at doing just that.
It’s a way for us to have a unified backend that uses the IC while providing APIs that multiple frontends can use simultaneously.
This is the very reason why we’ve built a home grown identity solution that shares the same principal across all these frontends. You’ll notice that logging into all of the above apps and navigating to your profile from the menu will give you the same principal ID and the same wallet
This is also the reason why we’ve always INSISTED on a single-user, single-canister architecture even though we’ve been advised against it by Dfinity engineering because ultimately we wanted to be able to host multiple apps for a single user from the same backend canister and have a single user’s data be neatly isolated to their personal canister
We are a small team that has always been IC first and intend to remain that way for decades. Our entire app and DAO is built on top of it and there’s no way for us to have any malicious intent around it.
We are a team of 10-12 odd engineers based out of India at Dolr ai and it is humanly IMPOSSIBLE for us to take over a network of such sheer size, brilliance and capability.
Some additional points of clarification:
Meeting with George
The Dolr ai team have personally attended 2 IC Labs (1st on scaling, 2nd on DAOs) hosted by Dfinity at Zurich at their headquarters at different times in the last couple of years. We have met multiple ecosystem teams and Dfinity engineers at these events and have made valuable professional connections during these events and after.
However, as an Indian citizen, obtaining a Schengen Visa is relatively difficult as we can only obtain business Visa(s) valid for 15 days. So, we’ve been applying to Spain for a Digital Nomad Visa and that is how I happened to be in Madrid.
I have been part of the IC ecosystem sometime since genesis.
I have since then been actively learning, participating and contributing to everything IC
Since the IC ecosystem is a closely knit group, almost all active participants know each other owing to them attending events that are relevant to the IC
George and I met at Dfinity the first time during the first IC Lab that I attended. He was non-technical but an investor and a node provider.
George is a seasoned real estate investor with over a decade of experience in real estate. He is uniquely placed to provide his expertise on fractionalizing real estate and we would provide our expertise for scalable Dapps and undergoing the SNS. Tina who is the other co founder of EstateDAO brings their years of experience with compliance and is well placed to provide their legal expertise as compliance was a primary hurdle that needed to be solved for fractionalizing real estate via NFTs. This is how EstateDAO was born and we’ve been providing scaling/technical guidance for EstateDAO since then
At the time, he was visiting Madrid. Since the beginning of our relationship, George and us have had a cordial professional relationship. He is a friend, an ardent supporter, an early investor and a partner from EstateDAO.
That is our primary relationship with George and the reason for our meeting.
Connection with node providers
I have NEVER MET any of the above listed names apart from George Bassadone, his wife (on a single occassion) and Tina Rohner for our work related to EstateDAO
I am primarily based out of Kolkata, West Bengal, India
- Rivram - Rivram has their node provider declaration here. Rivram Inc - Internet Computer Wiki
- Marvelous Web3 - Node provider declaration here
Marvelous Web3 - Internet Computer Wiki
Both of them seem to be based out of Canada and I’ve yet to visit Canada personally.
Shorting IC
Since our SNS, we’ve utilized around 450k ICP. Out of which we’ve paid around 800k-1M$ in cycle costs. The rest has paid for salaries primarily, cloud/software/GPU costs and then minor miscellaneous costs.
As a team and a DAO, our primary responsibilities are towards the upkeep and continuity of the DOLR ai SNS DAO and subsequently to the ICP NNS DAO.
We have NO OTHER allegiances.