You framed it in a certain way. There are people around here (including me) that dont care about that, thats why i said people can make thour own assestments. In fact he has been helping many of the same projects that went nowhere and i understand his position, i would be mad too (And i am since some of these discoveries directly affected my work and thousands of my collectors). One person can be RICH AND RIGHT, being rich doesnt mean less credible.
And Childish and Right.
No, I finally see what was happening, they were simultaneously trying to drain big holders like me and Gian of ICP/VP, infiltrating the foundation, slowing down critical developments via concern trolling and voting, funnelling ICP into crappy ventures that went nowhere, creating fake SNS to drain the neuron fund, taking over Node Providers⌠the list goes on.
Part II : The Motoko NFT Heist - coming soon to a thread near you. @bob11
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Thanks for the clarification. I understand and agree. There are many people who will not let his money and connections influence their opinion on his claims. I guess Iâm one of them even if I have drawn different conclusions than you so far. I do see a lot of people on socials use his power and connections as justification for how he is or might be right on node provider collusion though. Conscious or subconscious, I think many people do consider previously successful people to have a higher level of credibility. On the surface, it makes sense.
In this case, because I have actually looked at his evidence, know a fair amount of the history of node provider selection and onboarding work processes, pay attention to the proposals and reviews, see so many gaps and easy explanations in the evidence that Adam has provided, and see how easily he turns his attention to target new people with accusations of corruption against people that question him, I think itâs fair to say that he is NOT rich and right. My concern is that he has convinced so many people, and probably some high level execs at DFINITY, that he is right. I think his credibility is questionable so far and it becomes a harm to the internet computer when people looking at it from the outside evaluate the suitability of the internet computer for large business or government applications and they see major decisions being made based on his level of credibility and influence. This doesnât mean he doesnât have something credible to say and his allegations shouldnât be taken seriously. Maybe there is something he sees that he hasnât revealed or hasnât reveled in a way that makes sense. It just hasnât surfaced yet.
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So nothing strange with:
- George Bassadone and all the nodes?
- Karel Frankâs network in South Africa
- The 5 eastern european men all hosting in the Bassadone Nordic cities
- The absolute omnishambles when it comes to ID
- The real estate developer and workplace burnout coach getting 60 nodes.
- Aviate / WaterNeuron / Georgeâs MASSIVE CONTROL over the node machines
- The percentage of these colluding nodes that just so happen to be on critical subnets
- Karel Frank trying to get poorly performing (ddosâd) nodes and replaced with cartel nodes
- EstateDAO/FuelEV
- The fact that DOLR AI moves the state to 451 Gb and drains all other nodes on the subnet
- DOLR AI having no users but 500k canisters
this list will go on and on and on and youâll say âthe Community has decided these rules.â
No, YOU have decided that you are the community, YOU have pushed these rules through. YOU are the swamp, Wenzel.
I know youâve been jealous of voting power since genesis, Arthur Falls made that mistake, and you did too. Iâm here to protect the network from insidious actors like yourself.
Thankfully we have Figma and can join all the dots here (with red yarn if youâd prefer.)
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What was happening is that you seem to have put some money into some crappy SNS projects that havenât turned out any good (which shouldnât be too much of a surprise, this is basically akin to gambling). Now you are pissed off, which is your right to be. But instead of just owning up to that, you are making up random conspiracy theories about node providers. Maybe thatâs some sort of coping mechanism, but itâs just unacceptable to keep accusing and slandering node providers without any credible evidence.
Get therapy, get some financial advice, and most of all: grow up.
Oh I see thatâs what you thought when your network of people were contacting me and pressuring me to invest to help the ecosystem.
Iâm sorry, I didnât see this fully at the time but now everything makes sense.
The swamp is very deep indeed.
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he abandoned wisdom for MADNESS
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Did you not read a single thing that I wrote on any of these threads?
âDrain the Swampâ,
âRemove 32 Node Providersâ
âSYBILing NodesâŚâ
Did you not read any response that you got from Bassadone explaining his relationships to all other node providers in these threads above?
Did you not read any of the responses that you got from all 5 of the node providers who are from Eastern Europe answering your questions and accusations in these threads above?
Did you not read any of the information provided by Aviate, WaterNeruon, DOLR AI, and so many others who already provided you with explanations?
All of these people gave you a response, and yet you you still go on making claims that you are right and everyone else is wrong.
The rules for node provider selection and onboarding were established long before CodeGov started getting involved in Subnet Management, Node Admin, and Participant Management proposal reviews. We are following the already existing best practices with our reviews. We have long recognized that improvements can be made and have made many suggestions to that effect. Our preference is that a more robust node provider selection and onboarding process is established and have been very vocal about it since long before you starting making your low effort proposals. If you read any of my responses in the threads linked above, you would see a lot of discussion to this effect.
You put together whatever you want and I will be happy to explain. I have nothing to hide.
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Yeah lol I link 200 nodes together to the same small cabal of people and he just waves it away with his magical hand.
Basically Wenzel 101. I just bait him, listening to what he has to say is pointless.
Points well made, I just donât think he is listening or thinking. Also claims he has been looking into this for âfour yearsââŚthese are mostly Gen2 node providers that he is targeting, who onboarded in 2023. And also there has been no node provider onboarding for a year now. And none of these node providers even have that many nodes to begin with, and have actually been very forthcoming in answering his accusations, but alasâŚ
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I have since Artia and Arthur set up the Seed Investor telegram chat that was designed to manipulate people via a false narrative and make them follow the three original follow neurons.
o.0 Yes, I do know everything
Legit people does not respond like you do @wpb you are all over this place.
Legit people and or companies talks directly to the firm and not on a forum, if they have any concerns about something being wrong or being falsely accused, you on the other hand seems to be very much on high alert no matter what, you have everything to lose it seems from getting more greed.
Those being accused or being removed suddenly comes to the forum to make statements about how real they are? Them never being active and or have one post on the forums, they suddenly here⌠Come onâŚ
I can only think of ways somebody controls such entities and would answers from them all on different accounts from their coordinated positions
You are starting to smell from a far distance by many in the IC community.
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Actually we started off skeptical, initially defended FUEL EV btw; considering there are risks with every venture. But it seems there are a lot of dots connecting and some engineering approaches feeding the loop to more nodes but we donât see actual adoption is very sus. Also we donât know Borovan, this is being discussed at our company-fund as we are adopting ICP as innovation partners for the regulator and multiple funds and we want to makes sure it will stay safe and decentralized(kinda feels like everyone has to lay out their motives at end to avoid being called âbribedâ at any point
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Closed. Too much namecalling and overall aggressive behavior. Mods are discussing on how to handle this situation.