Yral Updates - Episode 1

Hey everyone.

We are starting a video series that goes over any and every concern that’s being raised for Yral.

We are going to be regularly posting this and intend to post updates as well as answer any questions being asked.

Please feel free to post all your questions or concerns and we’ll collate them together and provide comprehensive answers while also showing any supporting material during these.

Please leave us any questions you have for us to answer in subsequent episodes

Thanks

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Alright. Don’t use such a long video to dodge the issue—this has nothing to do with recommendation algorithms. Answer directly: Why is the homepage video list on Yral a loop of fewer than 100 videos? This was the case today, yesterday, the day before, on mobile, on desktop, with different accounts, and it’s still the same after refreshing.

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@saikatdas0790 @utkarshgoyal @rishichadha30

While youre answering that:

FuelEV: dude wheres my car?

EstateDAO: dude wheres my apartment?

Vr1.ai - dude wheres my website?

Knottytales.com - actually nicely done. I like this one.

You guys are amazing at securing funding.

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Thank you for the feedback. Acknowledged.

We have covered how the feed works in the video. Please spend some of your precious time going over.

It’s unfair to not even make the effort to go over the published answer and then expect answers to your question

We have noted and will do a deep dive into how our feed works, including showing code and demonstrating how feeds work across large social apps.

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Dude, I’ve watched it, and your video only has some nonsense

Answer directly: Why is the homepage video list on Yral a loop of fewer than 100 videos? This was the case today, yesterday, the day before, on mobile, on desktop, with different accounts, and it’s still the same after refreshing.

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I think that The canisters with the rest of the videos are in the estateDAO apartment.

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We provide technical support and mentorship to both EstateDAO and FuelEV with the experience that we’ve built over the years building on top of the IC

Expect them to post their separate updates soon in a format that answers all your questions.

They are their own DAOs with their own founding teams and should have the chance to answer questions being asked of them

We’ve had 2 products that we’ve tried to build and launch before we immersed ourselves in blockchain, specifically, the IC

If you or any of your peers have any entrepreneurship experience, you will know and appreciate, building a successful business is seldom achieved on the first try.

KnottyTales and VR1 are our prior experiences and these are our badges of honour and WE WEAR THEM WITH PRIDE

Since they are not active businesses, the domains are free for anybody on the internet to pick up and host their own sites on. That’s how the internet works

Thank you for this. We’ll take this as a compliment

Any startup’s primary objective is to NOT RUN OUT OF MONEY while PURSUING PRODUCT MARKET FIT

Naturally, as founders, this is one of the key areas we need to be acutely and actively aware of and improve on.

Products don’t get built magically. They need capable and dedicated teams giving it their all to build something that users are likely to spend their precious time on. And these teams need to get recruited and retained.

We’ve not always been the best at communicating but this is an area we’re going to work to improve on

Thank you for the feedback

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Forgive me for my skepticism, but for a video posted an hour back and your first comment being 20mins after, for a ONE AND A HALF HOUR long video, you might have missed some of the details while SKIMMING through the video SO FAST.

Maybe give it a fair chance again? I’m hopeful you’ll have some clarity

We’ll also cover the feed in extensive detail as a follow up

Please appreciate that this communication is intended for all of the Yral/Dolr.ai DAO’s audience, so we’ll try to cover this with a holistic approach

Thank you for being so BRUTALLY honest

I’m enabling slow mode. Too much angry yelling in this thread.

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Nothing wrong with being proud of your work.

Thanks, im a hobbyist developer. I know how to build websites. Though i appreciate the lesson. Ive built several static sites similar to knottytales but i never though to ask an investor for 60k to do it. Generally i would charge a client ~$500 for that sort of thing. Maybe you guys could mentor me.

Theres a pattern here. You guys had a good run.

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By the way since we’re giving web developer lessons, i couldnt help but notice:

When you recycled the front end code from estateDAO to fuel EV you forgot to remove this hidden menu.

Though i realize these things are probably not important when youre trying to get your 3rd sns of the year through.

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this has been going on since their early hot or not days, like 2 years ago or something.

Nobody’s using the product(why would they?)

Yeah I mean they seem to only care about sending cycles back and fore as fast as possible to overwhem subnets.


// rarities_query
// for testing
#[query(guard = "guard_query")]
pub fn rarities_query(
    filter: String,
    order: Vec<(String, SortDirection)>,
    offset: u32,
    limit: Option<u32>,
) -> Result<Vec<Rarity>, Error> {
    perf!();

    let rarities = query::load::<Rarity>()
        .all()
        .debug()
        .offset(offset)
        .filter_all(&filter)
        .order(order)
        .limit_option(limit)
        .execute(&DB)?
        .entities();

    Ok(rarities)
}

using mimic (me and some other part-time helpers), you can create a query like this and send it between canisters and return filtered datasets.

I only learned rust 2 years ago.

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Because he scammed the community users, I don’t understand why dfinity even helps this kind of project, doesn’t dom know about it?

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Do you realise that we currently have 571 nodes in subnets? And how many total nodes do we have? 1542. So we have almost 3x as many nodes than are actually currently being utilized. So aside from the fact that these people don’t run any nodes at all and never tried to onboard any, and that node onboarding has been closed for like a year, there is also absolutely no logic to this argument whatsoever given that there are plenty of unused nodes one could utilise before there would ever be any talk about adding more nodes.

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The Yral incident exposed many problems of dfinity. If dfinity does not solve this problem fairly, dfinity will lose community credibility.

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I know Yral is a fraud the moment I saw it, the style I can feel… I don’t understand why so many ppl believe it.

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Some wedding photographer has acquired the domain and is hosting their wedding photography page on it. WHAT WE BUILT IS NOT WHAT IS HOSTED THERE

Is that not apparent there? It’s a wedding photographer’s portfolio website. NOT WHAT WE BUILT.

We’re not. This thread is focused on Yral updates. We are going to limit responses to Yral here.

If I had to take a stab, I imagine it’s because reusable UI components would have been borrowed between the apps. The 2 apps:

were built by the bootstrapped team with no grant funding with a single dev that we’ve helped recruit and mentor.

Since there’re commonalities between the ICRC 7 NFT minter for EstateDAO and FuelEV, I imagine some code would be shared.

There was a significant amount of overlap in this code the first time Fuel EV had tried to go through the SNS. They were rejected basis that and they took that feedback to heart, persisted for approx. 6 months and obtained approval from the NNS DAO to participate.

Hey Adam :waving_hand:

Sending cycles back and forth would simply be update calls between canisters. Canisters would pay for the cycle cost associated with intercanister calls. The network wouldn’t be overwhelmed with update calls between canisters on a subnet.

I’m not sure who reviewed the code on your behalf but as far as I can remember you asked for links to our canister code and you reviewed the entire bit in detail including verifying the WASM hashes to match what we’ve deployed is what the code provided is.
The problematic bit of code that you showed was querying cycle balances of children canisters from parent canisters and sending cycles from the parent canister to the children canister and was doing it in a batch of 10 and not individually 1 by 1. It’s an optimization so that canister topups can happen as fast as possible. I imagine OpenChat does the same.
If you have a fleet of canisters, you would parallelise. Nothing wrong with that

You wouldn’t actually. You are assuming query calls, which have only recently been enabled for intra subnet calls, inter subnet query calls don’t work yet

So that wouldn’t work. So you would do update calls here and we know what latencies for that look like. It would be a painfully slow call.

And this is just the top level orchestrator obtaining the balance from the subnet orchestrator. The subnet orchestrator also needs to do this for all individuals it controls.

But Mimic is pretty cool

Yep, I remember. I probably have another an additional year of experience :slight_smile:
We did vibe on a bunch of Rust code for so long. You used to like my function names :slight_smile:

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Skynet is magnificent, sparse but not leaky

I guess i gave you guys too much credit by assuming that your project that you received funding for was still in operation. My bad, should have known better. it was my favorite project here.

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