Subnet Management - snjp4 (Application)

Voted to adopt proposal 134412.

This proposal replaces node 7pfb3 which appears in the dashboard as “Status: Active”. As shown in the proposal, decentralisation parameters are unchanged and remain within the requirements of the target topology.

The stated purpose of this change is to remove nodes in the PL1 data centre as the node provider “is selling the PL1 DC after 48 months”. It’s not clear from the information linked whether the node provider is selling the entire data centre or just the node machines, but removal of the nodes for one or other of these purposes is consistent with this post from the node provider, the processes described in the same forum thread and the information in 87m Neuron’s node provider record in the IC dashboard. Additionally, the self-declaration documents provided match the provided hashes.

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Proposal 134412

Vote: ADOPT

This proposal is part of a sequence of steps to remove cordoned nodes from subnets as the associated data centeres are being offboarded after 48 months of their respective DC contracts that are still private and were signed up before the Genesis. There is a great and detailed explanation of this changes in this forum post and the forum thread it is in. In the wiki there is a series of Steps for Gen-1 Node onboarding after 48 months that need to be followed in order for the nodes to continue earning rewards which starts by making a forum post in the following thread. As we can verify no one as come forward with nodes from the DCs in this proposals so I don’t see any issues with the removal of this nodes.

I’ve voted to reject proposal 134412. It makes claims that I see no clear way of verifying. This sort of verifiability issue was brought up months ago, where it was indicated that NPs would provide explicit confirmation of their alignment with specific proposals that are based on an understanding between the NP and the proposer. The proposal doesn’t link to such a post. Note that there are issues with that approach as well (given the ease with which such posts could be forged by the proposer), but this would at least be a start.

I’m currently thinking about starting a discussion and an associated motion proposal, about how to make this sort of thing more verifiable.

Replace a node in subnet snjp4

Motivation:
The following nodes in subnet snjp4 have been cordoned and need to be removed from the subnet:

Decentralization Nakamoto coefficient changes for subnet snjp4-xlbw4-mnbog-ddwy6-6ckfd-2w5a2-eipqo-7l436-pxqkh-l6fuv-vae:

    node_provider: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
      data_center: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
data_center_owner: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
             area: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
          country: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)

Mean Nakamoto comparison: 5.00 → 5.00 (+0%)

Overall replacement impact: equal decentralization across all features

Details

Nodes removed:

  • lrc24-ewvts-5ecwr-oitgj-2mrc3-elne2-otvv2-2b2kq-lj24z-jpvqq-eqe [health: healthy]

Nodes added:

  • wzobn-oqy6r-qnhrl-6qvxp-3dizc-5gb2q-tbtnc-ptnfl-vyxkw-g7gxc-4qe [health: healthy]
    node_provider                                                         data_center            data_center_owner                               area                                  country        
    -------------                                                         -----------            -----------------                               ----                                  -------        
    6nbcy-kprg6-ax3db-kh3cz-7jllk-oceyh-jznhs-riguq-fvk6z-6tsds-rqe  1    ar1               1    Africa Data Centres                        1    British Columbia                 1    AR            1
    7at4h-nhtvt-a4s55-jigss-wr2ha-ysxkn-e6w7x-7ggnm-qd3d5-ry66r-cae  1    bc1               1    Cloud9                                     1    CABA                             1    AU            1
    7ryes-jnj73-bsyu4-lo6h7-lbxk5-x4ien-lylws-5qwzl-hxd5f-xjh3w-mqe  1    ct1               1    Cyxtera                                    1    Cape Town                        1    CA            1
    7uioy-xitfw-yqcko-5gpya-3lpsw-dw7zt-dyyyf-wfqif-jvi76-fdbkg-cqe  1    fr2               1    Datasite                                   1    Florida                          1    CH            1
    bvcsg-3od6r-jnydw-eysln-aql7w-td5zn-ay5m6-sibd2-jzojt-anwag-mqe  1    ge1               1    Digital Realty                             1    Geneva                           1    DE            1
    fwnmn-zn7yt-5jaia-fkxlr-dzwyu-keguq-npfxq-mc72w-exeae-n5thj-oae  1    hk1               1    Equinix                                    1    Hesse                            1    FR       1 -> 0
    optdi-nwa4m-hly3k-6ua4n-sqyxf-yahvb-wps77-ddayn-r7zcz-edla5-7qe  1    lj1               1    HighDC                                     1    HongKong                         1    GE            1
    r3yjn-kthmg-pfgmb-2fngg-5c7d7-t6kqg-wi37r-j7gy6-iee64-kjdja-jae  1    mr1          1 -> 0    Marvelous Web3 DC                          1    Ljubljana                        1    HK            1
    s5nvr-ipdxf-xg6wd-ofacm-7tl4i-nwjzx-uulum-cugwb-kbpsa-wrsgs-cae  1    nd1               1    NEXTDC                                     1    New Delhi                        1    IN            1
    vegae-c4chr-aetfj-7gzuh-c23sx-u2paz-vmvbn-bcage-pu7lu-mptnn-eqe  1    or1               1    Posita.si                                  1    Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur  1 -> 0    SE       0 -> 1
    wdjjk-blh44-lxm74-ojj43-rvgf4-j5rie-nm6xs-xvnuv-j3ptn-25t4v-6ae  1    sc1               1    SyT - Servicios y Telecomunicaciones S.A.  1    Queensland                       1    SG            1
    wdnqm-clqti-im5yf-iapio-avjom-kyppl-xuiza-oaz6z-smmts-52wyg-5ae  1    sg1               1    Telin                                      1    Singapore                        1    SI            1
    wwdbq-xuqhf-eydzu-oyl7p-ga565-zm7s7-yrive-ozgsy-zzgh3-qwb3j-cae  1    sh1          0 -> 1    Unicom                                     1    Stockholm                   0 -> 1    US            1
                                                                          tb1               1                                                    Tbilisi                          1    ZA            1
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A new proposal with id 134578 has been submitted, please take a look.

Click here to open proposal details

Replace a node in subnet snjp4

Motivation:
The following nodes in subnet snjp4 have been cordoned and need to be removed from the subnet:

Decentralization Nakamoto coefficient changes for subnet snjp4-xlbw4-mnbog-ddwy6-6ckfd-2w5a2-eipqo-7l436-pxqkh-l6fuv-vae:

    node_provider: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
      data_center: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
data_center_owner: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
             area: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
          country: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)

Mean Nakamoto comparison: 5.00 → 5.00 (+0%)

Overall replacement impact: equal decentralization across all features

Details

Nodes removed:

  • lrc24-ewvts-5ecwr-oitgj-2mrc3-elne2-otvv2-2b2kq-lj24z-jpvqq-eqe [health: healthy]

Nodes added:

  • wzobn-oqy6r-qnhrl-6qvxp-3dizc-5gb2q-tbtnc-ptnfl-vyxkw-g7gxc-4qe [health: healthy]
    node_provider                                                         data_center            data_center_owner                               area                                  country        
    -------------                                                         -----------            -----------------                               ----                                  -------        
    6nbcy-kprg6-ax3db-kh3cz-7jllk-oceyh-jznhs-riguq-fvk6z-6tsds-rqe  1    ar1               1    Africa Data Centres                        1    British Columbia                 1    AR            1
    7at4h-nhtvt-a4s55-jigss-wr2ha-ysxkn-e6w7x-7ggnm-qd3d5-ry66r-cae  1    bc1               1    Cloud9                                     1    CABA                             1    AU            1
    7ryes-jnj73-bsyu4-lo6h7-lbxk5-x4ien-lylws-5qwzl-hxd5f-xjh3w-mqe  1    ct1               1    Cyxtera                                    1    Cape Town                        1    CA            1
    7uioy-xitfw-yqcko-5gpya-3lpsw-dw7zt-dyyyf-wfqif-jvi76-fdbkg-cqe  1    fr2               1    Datasite                                   1    Florida                          1    CH            1
    bvcsg-3od6r-jnydw-eysln-aql7w-td5zn-ay5m6-sibd2-jzojt-anwag-mqe  1    ge1               1    Digital Realty                             1    Geneva                           1    DE            1
    fwnmn-zn7yt-5jaia-fkxlr-dzwyu-keguq-npfxq-mc72w-exeae-n5thj-oae  1    hk1               1    Equinix                                    1    Hesse                            1    FR       1 -> 0
    optdi-nwa4m-hly3k-6ua4n-sqyxf-yahvb-wps77-ddayn-r7zcz-edla5-7qe  1    lj1               1    HighDC                                     1    HongKong                         1    GE            1
    r3yjn-kthmg-pfgmb-2fngg-5c7d7-t6kqg-wi37r-j7gy6-iee64-kjdja-jae  1    mr1          1 -> 0    Marvelous Web3 DC                          1    Ljubljana                        1    HK            1
    s5nvr-ipdxf-xg6wd-ofacm-7tl4i-nwjzx-uulum-cugwb-kbpsa-wrsgs-cae  1    nd1               1    NEXTDC                                     1    New Delhi                        1    IN            1
    vegae-c4chr-aetfj-7gzuh-c23sx-u2paz-vmvbn-bcage-pu7lu-mptnn-eqe  1    or1               1    Posita.si                                  1    Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur  1 -> 0    SE       0 -> 1
    wdjjk-blh44-lxm74-ojj43-rvgf4-j5rie-nm6xs-xvnuv-j3ptn-25t4v-6ae  1    sc1               1    SyT - Servicios y Telecomunicaciones S.A.  1    Queensland                       1    SG            1
    wdnqm-clqti-im5yf-iapio-avjom-kyppl-xuiza-oaz6z-smmts-52wyg-5ae  1    sg1               1    Telin                                      1    Singapore                        1    SI            1
    wwdbq-xuqhf-eydzu-oyl7p-ga565-zm7s7-yrive-ozgsy-zzgh3-qwb3j-cae  1    sh1          0 -> 1    Unicom                                     1    Stockholm                   0 -> 1    US            1
                                                                          tb1               1                                                    Tbilisi                          1    ZA            1

Voted to reject proposal 134578 as this is part of a large batch of non-critical proposals timed such that the voting period clashes with national holidays, thereby allowing insufficient time for an appropriately detailed review to take place.

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Rejected proposal 134578. There’s no time to review this and the 18 other proposals in the same batch properly over Xmas eve, Xmas and Boxing Day. This is a non-critical proposal.

More information and discussion on this thread.

Proposal 134578

Vote: ADOPT

Replaces cordoned node lrc24 with node wzobn on subnet snjp4.
The reason for this proposal is to offboard MR1 DC consistent with forum posts made on the forum thread used for posts regarding the renovation/sell of Gen-1 node machines by NPs.
Both the NP and DC stated in the forum post and forum post match the ones from the node being removed in the proposal.

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Voted to adopt proposal #134578.

The proposal replaces cordoned healthy Active status node lrc24 from the MR1 Data Center in France, with unassigned healthy Awaiting status node wzobn from Sweden, without any change to the decentralization of the subnet.
The motivation makes sense and the provided Forum link included in the summary provides further info, also it can be checked here.