Subnet Management - pjljw (Application)

Proposal 134913 Review | LORIMER Known Neuron

VOTE: YES

TLDR: Node jurisdiction diversity is improved by this proposal. Key metrics (specified by the IC Target Topology) remain unchanged . There is a clear public declaration for each cordoned node which is referred to in the proposal summary.

1 cordoned nodes replaced with a node in Canada.

Decentralisation Stats

Subnet node distance stats (distance between any 2 nodes in the subnet) →

Smallest Distance Average Distance Largest Distance
EXISTING 0 km 7270.354 km 16759.085 km
PROPOSED 0 km 7882.581 km (+8.4%) 16759.085 km

This proposal slightly increases decentralisation, considered purely in terms of geographic distance (and therefore there’s a slight theoretical increase in localised disaster resilience). :+1:

Subnet characteristic counts →

Continents Countries Data Centers Owners Node Providers Node Operator
EXISTING 5 11 13 13 13 13
PROPOSED 5 12 (+8.3%) 13 13 13 13

This proposal slightly improves decentralisation in terms of jurisdiction diversity. :+1:

Largest number of nodes with the same characteristic (e.g. continent, country, data center, etc.) →

Continent Country Data Center Owner Node Provider Node Operator
EXISTING 7 2 1 1 1 1
PROPOSED 6 (-14.29%) 2 1 1 1 1

See here for acceptable limits → Motion 132136

The above subnet information is illustrated below, followed by a node reference table:

Map Description
  • Red marker represents a removed node (transparent center for overlap visibility)
  • Green marker represents an added node
  • Blue marker represents an unchanged node
  • Highlighted patches represent the country the above nodes sit within (red if the country is removed, green if added, otherwise grey)
  • Light grey markers with yellow borders are examples of unassigned nodes that would be viable candidates for joining the subnet according to formal decentralisation coefficients (so this proposal can be viewed in the context of alternative solutions that are not being used)

Node Changes
Action Node Status Continent Country Data Center Owner Node Provider Node Operator
Remove gtjga UP :bar_chart: Europe Switzerland Geneva (ge1) HighDC Archery Blockchain SCSp yngfj
Add xbcli UNASSIGNED :bar_chart: Americas Canada Toronto 2 (to2) Cyxtera Blockchain Development Labs 4lp6i
Other Nodes
Node Status Continent Country Data Center Owner Node Provider Node Operator
yjbaw UP :bar_chart: Oceania Australia Melbourne 2 (mn2) NEXTDC Icaria Systems Pty Ltd l5lhp
vdvh4 UP :bar_chart: Europe Belgium Brussels (br1) Digital Realty Allusion mjeqs
fqczw UP :bar_chart: Europe Belgium Seoul 3 (kr1) KT Pindar Technology Limited iubpe
4bokb UP :bar_chart: Europe Switzerland Zurich 2 (zh2) Everyware DFINITY Stiftung xcne4
5ei6o UP :bar_chart: Asia China HongKong 3 (hk3) hkcolo Power Meta Corporation 4lbqo
dd3ye UP :bar_chart: Europe Germany Frankfurt 2 (fr2) Equinix Virtual Hive Ltd 3nu7r
5fpzb UP :bar_chart: Asia India New Delhi 1 (nd1) Marvelous Web3 DC Marvelous Web3 ri4lg
tkoxk UP :bar_chart: Europe Romania Bucharest (bu1) M247 Iancu Aurel c5ssg
vtbf4 UP :bar_chart: Asia Singapore Singapore 2 (sg2) Telin OneSixtyTwo Digital Capital qffmn
c6on3 UP :bar_chart: Europe Slovenia Ljubljana (lj1) Posita.si Fractal Labs AG gl27f
k67we UP :bar_chart: Americas United States of America (the) Jacksonville (jv1) Tierpoint Rivonia Holdings LLC wmrev
yszpk UP :bar_chart: Africa South Africa Gauteng 2 (jb2) Africa Data Centres Honeycomb Capital (Pty) Ltd 3bohy

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Proposal 134913 | Tim - CodeGov

Vote: Adopt

This proposal replaces node gtjga which appears in the dashboard as “Status: Active” for the stated reason “offboarding the second rack of nodes in the GE1 DC after 48 months”. This node is listed to be handed over in this post. As shown in the proposal, decentralisation parameters are improved with respect to country and remain within the requirements of the target topology.

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Proposal #134913 — Zack | CodeGov

Vote: Adopted
Reason:
The proposal replaces cordoned healthy Active status node gtjga from Geneva, with
unassigned healthy Awaiting status node xbcli from Toronto. This improves the decentralization of the subnet.
The motivation makes sense and the provided Forum link included in the summary provides further info.

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Proposal 134913 – LaCosta | CodeGov

Vote: ADOPT

Replaces cordoned node gtjga with node xbcli on subnet pjljw.
The reason for this proposal is to offboard the GE1 DC consistent with forum posts made on the forum thread used for posts regarding the renovation/sell of Gen-1 node machines by NPs.
Both the NP and DC stated in the forum post match the ones from the node being removed in the proposal.
The node being removed was also stated here.

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I also had to look twice :sweat_smile: thanks for raising this question! :slight_smile:

answer is here: Subnet Management - pjljw (Application) - #19 by wpb

@wpb not only @Lorimer could be confused about this (speaking as a voting neuron grant reviewer :sweat_smile: )

not sure if there is a good way to provide such context right now in the spreadsheet we use. I do not think it is needed there, but it would be great to provide some context here in case the team votes mentioned in the forum are “overrruled” for whatever reason. (cc @cryptoschindler)

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Hey @marc0olo would you please clarify further what you need me to do? Do you need something beyond what was indicated here…

…and here…

I just want to make sure I understand if there is any new request. I’m happy to do my part to make it easy for DFINITY to understand how the CodeGov vote is cast on any specific proposal.

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I was just wondering why the vote differed from what the majority of CodeGov reviewers recommended to vote for here. then I tried to understand why that was the case and followed the discussion. I assume that if @Lorimer didn’t ask about it, I would have asked why that was the case.

from my side there is no concrete advise how to handle this, I was just a little bit surprised when I saw the mismatch between recommendation and actual vote. it would have been good to have more context without the need to ask.

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A new proposal with ID 135417 has been submitted, please take a look.

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Replace nodes in subnet pjljw

Motivation:

  • replacing dead node 4bokb
  • replacing dead node k67we

Calculated potential impact on subnet decentralization if replacing:

Based on the calculated potential impact, not replacing additional nodes to improve optimization.

Note: the information below is provided for your convenience. Please independently verify the decentralization changes rather than relying solely on this summary.
Here is an explaination of how decentralization is currently calculated,
and there are also instructions for performing what-if analysis if you are wondering if another node would have improved decentralization more.

Decentralization Nakamoto coefficient changes for subnet pjljw-kztyl-46ud4-ofrj6-nzkhm-3n4nt-wi3jt-ypmav-ijqkt-gjf66-uae:

    node_provider: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
      data_center: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
data_center_owner: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
             area: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
          country: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)

Mean Nakamoto comparison: 5.00 → 5.00 (+0%)

Overall replacement impact: equal decentralization across all features

Impact on business rules penalties: 1000 → 0

Details

Nodes removed:

  • 4bokb-dd7ie-6sx2e-s75z3-ncqvu-rfjzo-gfe4g-lzlma-bship-vmd2o-vqe [health: dead]
  • k67we-rbzgg-dzz2e-y3rki-ourfo-tfxdk-boewb-zyayq-l5m7f-su4px-gae [health: dead]

Nodes added:

  • pzhdx-bue7v-bemr2-zkw4b-bpije-pc2jc-wrhwo-hfrwj-p646g-ibscz-dae [health: healthy]
  • ucznq-t6max-wjxsb-yryjd-qgrbu-5nn4z-qfwqk-chaap-lymtj-cktlx-jae [health: healthy]
    node_provider                                                              data_center            data_center_owner              area                        country   
    -------------                                                              -----------            -----------------              ----                        -------   
    4fedi-eu6ue-nd7ts-vnof5-hzg66-hgzl7-liy5n-3otyp-h7ipw-owycg-uae       1    br1               1    Africa Data Centres       1    Brussels Capital       1    AU       1
    6nbcy-kprg6-ax3db-kh3cz-7jllk-oceyh-jznhs-riguq-fvk6z-6tsds-rqe       1    bu1               1    Cyxtera                   1    Bucuresti              1    BE       1
    7at4h-nhtvt-a4s55-jigss-wr2ha-ysxkn-e6w7x-7ggnm-qd3d5-ry66r-cae       1    dl1          0 -> 1    Digital Realty            1    Florida           1 -> 0    CA       1
    7uioy-xitfw-yqcko-5gpya-3lpsw-dw7zt-dyyyf-wfqif-jvi76-fdbkg-cqe       1    fr2               1    Equinix                   1    Gauteng                1    CH       1
    bvcsg-3od6r-jnydw-eysln-aql7w-td5zn-ay5m6-sibd2-jzojt-anwag-mqe       1    hk3               1    Everyware                 1    Hesse                  1    DE       1
    eipr5-izbom-neyqh-s3ec2-52eww-cyfpg-qfomg-3dpwj-4pffh-34xcu-7qe  0 -> 1    jb2               1    Flexential           0 -> 1    HongKong               1    HK       1
    i7dto-bgkj2-xo5dx-cyrb7-zkk5y-q46eh-gz6iq-qkgyc-w4qte-scgtb-6ae       1    jv1          1 -> 0    KT                        1    Ljubljana              1    IN       1
    ihbuj-erwnc-tkjux-tqtnv-zkoar-uniy2-sk2go-xfpkc-znbb4-seukm-wqe       1    kr1               1    M247                      1    Melbourne              1    KR       1
    nmdd6-rouxw-55leh-wcbkn-kejit-njvje-p4s6e-v64d3-nlbjb-vipul-mae       1    lj1               1    Marvelous Web3 DC         1    New Delhi              1    RO       1
    r3yjn-kthmg-pfgmb-2fngg-5c7d7-t6kqg-wi37r-j7gy6-iee64-kjdja-jae       1    mn2               1    NEXTDC                    1    Ontario                1    SG       1
    rbn2y-6vfsb-gv35j-4cyvy-pzbdu-e5aum-jzjg6-5b4n5-vuguf-ycubq-zae       1    nd1               1    Posita.si                 1    Seoul                  1    SI       1
    spp3m-vawt7-3gyh6-pjz5d-6zidf-up3qb-yte62-otexv-vfpqg-n6awf-lqe  1 -> 0    sg2               1    Telin                     1    Singapore              1    US       1
    wdjjk-blh44-lxm74-ojj43-rvgf4-j5rie-nm6xs-xvnuv-j3ptn-25t4v-6ae       1    to2               1    Tierpoint            1 -> 0    Texas             0 -> 1    ZA       1
    wdnqm-clqti-im5yf-iapio-avjom-kyppl-xuiza-oaz6z-smmts-52wyg-5ae       1    zh2               1    hkcolo                    1    Zurich                 1              

Business rules check results before the membership change:

  • Subnet should have 1 DFINITY-owned node(s) for subnet recovery, got 0

Proposal 135417 Review | Lorimer - CO.DELTA △

VOTE: YES

TLDR: 2 down nodes replaced with 2 unassigned nodes. IC Target Topology metrics remain unchanged. One of the nodes being replaced is a DFINITY nodes, necessarily replaced by another DFINITY node.

There’s a country discrepancy covering a rather large distance (despite the geolocation provider utilising a probe network). Something to revisit, given that the node in question isn’t affected directly by this proposal.

Country Discrepancies (2)
Node Data Center Claimed Country According to ipinfo.io
vdvh4 Brussels Belgium France
xbcli Toronto 2 Canada United States of America (the)
Decentralisation Stats

Subnet node distance stats (distance between any 2 nodes in the subnet) →

Smallest Distance Average Distance Largest Distance
EXISTING 305.949 km 8206.244 km 16616.573 km
PROPOSED 305.949 km 8232.538 km (+0.3%) 16616.573 km

This proposal slightly increases decentralisation, considered purely in terms of geographic distance (and therefore there’s a slight theoretical increase in localised disaster resilience). :+1:

Subnet characteristic counts →

Continents Countries Data Centers Owners Node Providers Node Operator
EXISTING 5 13 13 13 13 13
PROPOSED 5 13 13 13 13 13

Largest number of nodes with the same characteristic (e.g. continent, country, data center, etc.) →

Continent Country Data Center Owner Node Provider Node Operator
EXISTING 5 1 1 1 1 1
PROPOSED 5 1 1 1 1 1

See here for acceptable limits → Motion 132136

The above subnet information is illustrated below, followed by a node reference table:

Map Description
  • Red marker represents a removed node (transparent center for overlap visibility)

  • Green marker represents an added node

  • Blue marker represents an unchanged node

  • Highlighted patches represent the country the above nodes sit within (red if the country is removed, green if added, otherwise grey)

  • Light grey markers with yellow borders are examples of unassigned nodes that would be viable candidates for joining the subnet according to formal decentralisation coefficients (so this proposal can be viewed in the context of alternative solutions that are not being used)

  • Black dotted line connects to a small black marker that shows where the IP address indicates the node is located (according to ipinfo.io). This is only displayed if it conflicts with where IC records indicate the node is located. See Country Discrepancies section above for more info.

Node Changes
Action Node Status Continent Country Data Center Owner Node Provider Node Operator
Remove 4bokb DOWN :bar_chart: Europe Switzerland Zurich 2 (zh2) Everyware DFINITY Stiftung xcne4
Remove k67we DOWN :bar_chart: North America United States of America (the) Jacksonville (jv1) Tierpoint Rivonia Holdings LLC wmrev
Add pzhdx UNASSIGNED :bar_chart: Europe Switzerland Zurich 2 (zh2) Everyware DFINITY Stiftung db7fe
Add ucznq UNASSIGNED :bar_chart: North America United States of America (the) Dallas (dl1) Flexential 87m Neuron, LLC mw64v
Other Nodes
Node Status Continent Country Data Center Owner Node Provider Node Operator
yjbaw UP :bar_chart: Oceania Australia Melbourne 2 (mn2) NEXTDC Icaria Systems Pty Ltd l5lhp
vdvh4 UP :bar_chart: Europe Belgium Brussels (br1) Digital Realty Allusion mjeqs
xbcli UP :bar_chart: North America Canada Toronto 2 (to2) Cyxtera Blockchain Development Labs 4lp6i
dd3ye UP :bar_chart: Europe Germany Frankfurt 2 (fr2) Equinix Virtual Hive Ltd 3nu7r
5ei6o UP :bar_chart: Asia Hong Kong HongKong 3 (hk3) hkcolo Power Meta Corporation 4lbqo
5fpzb UP :bar_chart: Asia India New Delhi 1 (nd1) Marvelous Web3 DC Marvelous Web3 ri4lg
fqczw UP :bar_chart: Asia Korea (the Republic of) Seoul 3 (kr1) KT Pindar Technology Limited iubpe
tkoxk UP :bar_chart: Europe Romania Bucharest (bu1) M247 Iancu Aurel c5ssg
vtbf4 UP :bar_chart: Asia Singapore Singapore 2 (sg2) Telin OneSixtyTwo Digital Capital qffmn
c6on3 UP :bar_chart: Europe Slovenia Ljubljana (lj1) Posita.si Fractal Labs AG gl27f
yszpk UP :bar_chart: Africa South Africa Gauteng 2 (jb2) Africa Data Centres Honeycomb Capital (Pty) Ltd 3bohy


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Proposal 135417 | Tim - CodeGov

Vote: Adopt

This proposal replaces 2 nodes in subnet pjljw, appearing in the decentralization tool as “DOWN”. As shown in the proposal, decentralisation parameters are unchanged and remain within the requirements of the target topology.

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Proposal 135417 Review | aligatorr - CO.DELTA △

VOTE: YES

TLDR: 2 healthy nodes will replace 2 unhealthy ones.

  • Proposed topology Nakamoto Coefficient stayed the same as on current topology.
Node Changes 2 removed, 2 added
Node ID Status Country City Node Provider Data Center Data Center Owner
4bokb-dd7ie-6sx2e-s75z3-ncqvu-rfjzo-gfe4g-lzlma-bship-vmd2o-vqepzhdx-bue7v-bemr2-zkw4b-bpije-pc2jc-wrhwo-hfrwj-p646g-ibscz-dae DOWN → UNASSIGNED CHCH ZurichZurich DFINITY StiftungDFINITY Stiftung zh2zh2 EverywareEveryware
k67we-rbzgg-dzz2e-y3rki-ourfo-tfxdk-boewb-zyayq-l5m7f-su4px-gaeucznq-t6max-wjxsb-yryjd-qgrbu-5nn4z-qfwqk-chaap-lymtj-cktlx-jae DOWN → UNASSIGNED USUS FloridaTexas Rivonia Holdings LLC87m Neuron, LLC jv1dl1 TierpointFlexential
Current Nakamoto Coefficients and Topology, avg = 5.00
Attribute Nakamoto Coefficient Identical attribute values Max allowed identical values Unique Counts
Country 5 1 2 13
City 5 1 1 13
Data Center 5 1 1 13
Data Center Owner 5 1 1 13
Node Provider ID 5 1 1 13
Proposed Nakamoto Coefficients and Topology, avg = 5.00
Attribute Nakamoto Coefficient Identical attribute values Max allowed identical values Unique Counts
Country 5 1 2 13
City 5 1 1 13
Data Center 5 1 1 13
Data Center Owner 5 1 1 13
Node Provider ID 5 1 1 13

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Proposal 135417 Review | Malith H - CO.DELTA △

VOTE:Yes :white_check_mark:

TLDR:
The proposal replaces offline nodes in Zurich (Europe) and Jacksonville (North America).
No issues found in nodes or locations proposed. I vote to ADOPT

Provider Changes
Removed Added
DFINITY Stiftung DFINITY Stiftung
Rivonia Holdings LLC 87m Neuron, LLC
Location Changes
Removed Added
Europe, Zurich 2 Europe, Zurich 2
North America, Jacksonville North America, Dallas
Nodes Removed 2
Node ID Status Provider Data Center Location
4bokb… DOWN DFINITY Stiftung zh2 Zurich 2
k67we… DOWN Rivonia Holdings LLC jv1 Jacksonville
Nodes Added 2
Node ID Status Provider Data Center Location
pzhdx… UNASSIGNED DFINITY Stiftung zh2 Zurich 2
ucznq… UNASSIGNED 87m Neuron, LLC dl1 Dallas

:white_check_mark: Passes:

:white_check_mark: Node 4bokb…: Health check passed.

:white_check_mark: Node 4bokb…: Remove from Subnet check passed.

:white_check_mark: Node k67we…: Health check passed.

:white_check_mark: Node k67we…: Remove from Subnet check passed.

:white_check_mark: Node pzhdx…: Replacement Status check passed.

:white_check_mark: Node ucznq…: Replacement Status check passed.

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Proposal #135417 — Zack | CodeGov

Vote: Adopted
Reason:
The proposal replaces 2 dead Offline status node 4bokb from the ZH2 DC in Zurich and dead Offline status node k67we from the JV1 DC in Florida, with unassigned healthy Awaiting status node pzhdx from Zurich and unassigned healthy Awaiting status node ucznq from Dallas, without any change to decentralization.

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Proposal 135417 – LaCosta | CodeGov

Vote: ADOPT

The proposal replaces two dead nodes on subnet pjljw:

  • dead node 4bokb Dashboard Status: Offline and dead node k67we Dashboard Status: Offline

with nodes:

  • node pzhdx Dashboard Status: Awaiting and node ucznq Dashboard Status: Awaiting

There is no impact in the overall decentralization across all features.

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A new proposal with ID 135996 has been submitted, please take a look.

Click here to open proposal details

Replace a node in subnet pjljw

Motivation:
The node operator 4lbqo (under NP 4fedi) has 5 nodes in total and currently has all nodes assigned to subnets. We propose to remove one of the operator’s nodes from subnet pjljw to allow optimization of the overall network topology. The removal of the node from the subnet does not worsen subnet decentralization, and may allow the node to be assigned to subnet where it would improve decentralization.

Decentralization Nakamoto coefficient changes for subnet pjljw-kztyl-46ud4-ofrj6-nzkhm-3n4nt-wi3jt-ypmav-ijqkt-gjf66-uae:

    node_provider: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
      data_center: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
data_center_owner: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
             area: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)
          country: 5.00 -> 5.00    (+0%)

Mean Nakamoto comparison: 5.00 → 5.00 (+0%)

Overall replacement impact: equal decentralization across all features

Details

Nodes removed:

  • 5ei6o-6mx3z-zag6b-ubdsz-odxr3-ytixv-rrnv3-khmkc-4tuni-ber6p-mae [health: healthy]

Nodes added:

  • jemyk-uhint-w6ftv-s3xpy-ne4hr-xbcpu-aqskm-6a4cy-orm5q-aqqwd-gqe [health: healthy]
    node_provider                                                              data_center            data_center_owner              area                   country   
    -------------                                                              -----------            -----------------              ----                   -------   
    4fedi-eu6ue-nd7ts-vnof5-hzg66-hgzl7-liy5n-3otyp-h7ipw-owycg-uae  1 -> 0    br1               1    Africa Data Centres       1    Brussels Capital  1    AU       1
    6nbcy-kprg6-ax3db-kh3cz-7jllk-oceyh-jznhs-riguq-fvk6z-6tsds-rqe       1    bu1               1    Cyxtera                   1    Bucuresti         1    BE       1
    7at4h-nhtvt-a4s55-jigss-wr2ha-ysxkn-e6w7x-7ggnm-qd3d5-ry66r-cae       1    dl1               1    Digital Realty            1    Gauteng           1    CA       1
    7uioy-xitfw-yqcko-5gpya-3lpsw-dw7zt-dyyyf-wfqif-jvi76-fdbkg-cqe       1    fr2               1    Equinix                   1    Hesse             1    CH       1
    bvcsg-3od6r-jnydw-eysln-aql7w-td5zn-ay5m6-sibd2-jzojt-anwag-mqe       1    hk1          0 -> 1    Everyware                 1    HongKong          1    DE       1
    eipr5-izbom-neyqh-s3ec2-52eww-cyfpg-qfomg-3dpwj-4pffh-34xcu-7qe       1    hk3          1 -> 0    Flexential                1    Ljubljana         1    HK       1
    g2ax6-jrkmb-3zuh3-jibtb-q5xoq-njrgo-5utbc-j2o7g-zfq2w-yyhky-dqe  0 -> 1    jb2               1    KT                        1    Melbourne         1    IN       1
    i7dto-bgkj2-xo5dx-cyrb7-zkk5y-q46eh-gz6iq-qkgyc-w4qte-scgtb-6ae       1    kr1               1    M247                      1    New Delhi         1    KR       1
    ihbuj-erwnc-tkjux-tqtnv-zkoar-uniy2-sk2go-xfpkc-znbb4-seukm-wqe       1    lj1               1    Marvelous Web3 DC         1    Ontario           1    RO       1
    nmdd6-rouxw-55leh-wcbkn-kejit-njvje-p4s6e-v64d3-nlbjb-vipul-mae       1    mn2               1    NEXTDC                    1    Seoul             1    SG       1
    r3yjn-kthmg-pfgmb-2fngg-5c7d7-t6kqg-wi37r-j7gy6-iee64-kjdja-jae       1    nd1               1    Posita.si                 1    Singapore         1    SI       1
    rbn2y-6vfsb-gv35j-4cyvy-pzbdu-e5aum-jzjg6-5b4n5-vuguf-ycubq-zae       1    sg2               1    Telin                     1    Texas             1    US       1
    wdjjk-blh44-lxm74-ojj43-rvgf4-j5rie-nm6xs-xvnuv-j3ptn-25t4v-6ae       1    to2               1    Unicom               0 -> 1    Zurich            1    ZA       1
    wdnqm-clqti-im5yf-iapio-avjom-kyppl-xuiza-oaz6z-smmts-52wyg-5ae       1    zh2               1    hkcolo               1 -> 0                                     

Proposal 135996 Review | aligatorr - CO.DELTA △

VOTE: YES

TLDR: Node has been performing ok. Motivation is that node will be better used in other subnets.

  • Proposed topology Nakamoto Coefficient stayed the same as on current topology.
Node Changes 1 removed, 1 added
Node ID Status Country City Node Provider Data Center Data Center Owner
5ei6o-6mx3z-zag6b-ubdsz-odxr3-ytixv-rrnv3-khmkc-4tuni-ber6p-maejemyk-uhint-w6ftv-s3xpy-ne4hr-xbcpu-aqskm-6a4cy-orm5q-aqqwd-gqe UP → UNASSIGNED HKHK HongKongHongKong Power Meta CorporationWancloud limited hk3hk1 hkcoloUnicom
Current Nakamoto Coefficients and Topology, avg = 5.00
Attribute Nakamoto Coefficient Identical attribute values Max allowed identical values Unique Counts
Country 5 3 13
City 5 1 13
Data Center 5 1 13
Data Center Owner 5 1 13
Node Provider ID 5 1 13
Proposed Nakamoto Coefficients and Topology, avg = 5.00
Attribute Nakamoto Coefficient Identical attribute values Max allowed identical values Unique Counts
Country 5 3 13
City 5 1 13
Data Center 5 1 13
Data Center Owner 5 1 13
Node Provider ID 5 1 13

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Proposal 135996 – LaCosta | CodeGov

Vote: ADOPT

The proposal replaces a 1 node on subnet pjljw:
node 5ei6o Dashboard Status: Active with node jemyk Dashboard Status: Awaiting.

The proposal replaces the node since it’s Node Operator currently has all it’s nodes assigned to subnets and this node may be well suited in another subnet in order to improve decentralization.

There is no impact in the overall decentralization across all features.

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Proposal 135996 Review | Lorimer - CO.DELTA △

VOTE: YES

TLDR: The proposal ‘motivation’ claim below can be verified here, but running a text search on 4fedi-eu6ue-nd7ts-vnof5-hzg66-hgzl7-liy5n-3otyp-h7ipw-owycg-uae, showing that all nodes are currently allocated to subnets. This proposal removes one such node from this subnet.

We can see that the node provider for the replacement node (g2ax6-jrkmb-3zuh3-jibtb-q5xoq-njrgo-5utbc-j2o7g-zfq2w-yyhky-dqe) only has 3 of their 10 nodes assigned to subnets. This proposal increases that number to 4, balancing node provider allocation across subnets - making the IC Target Topology generally easier to achieve (less likely to get stuck in local optima).

Motivation: The node operator 4lbqo (under NP 4fedi) has 5 nodes in total and currently has all nodes assigned to subnets. We propose to remove one of the operator’s nodes from subnet pjljw to allow optimization of the overall network topology. The removal of the node from the subnet does not worsen subnet decentralization, and may allow the node to be assigned to subnet where it would improve decentralization.

Country Discrepancies (2)
Node Data Center Claimed Country According to ipinfo.io
vdvh4 Brussels Belgium France
xbcli Toronto 2 Canada United States of America (the)
Decentralisation Stats

Subnet node distance stats (distance between any 2 nodes in the subnet) →

Smallest Distance Average Distance Largest Distance
EXISTING 305.949 km 8232.538 km 16616.573 km
PROPOSED 305.949 km 8232.555 km 16616.573 km

Subnet characteristic counts →

Continents Countries Data Centers Owners Node Providers Node Operator
EXISTING 5 13 13 13 13 13
PROPOSED 5 13 13 13 13 13

Largest number of nodes with the same characteristic (e.g. continent, country, data center, etc.) →

Continent Country Data Center Owner Node Provider Node Operator
EXISTING 5 1 1 1 1 1
PROPOSED 5 1 1 1 1 1

See here for acceptable limits → Motion 135700

The above subnet information is illustrated below, followed by a node reference table:

Map Description
  • Red marker represents a removed node (transparent center for overlap visibility)

  • Green marker represents an added node

  • Blue marker represents an unchanged node

  • Highlighted patches represent the country the above nodes sit within (red if the country is removed, green if added, otherwise grey)

  • Light grey markers with yellow borders are examples of unassigned nodes that would be viable candidates for joining the subnet according to formal decentralisation coefficients (so this proposal can be viewed in the context of alternative solutions that are not being used)

  • Black dotted line connects to a small black marker that shows where the IP address indicates the node is located (according to ipinfo.io). This is only displayed if it conflicts with where IC records indicate the node is located. See Country Discrepancies section above for more info.

Node Changes
Action Node Status Continent Country Data Center Owner Node Provider Node Operator
Remove 5ei6o UP :bar_chart: Asia Hong Kong HongKong 3 (hk3) hkcolo Power Meta Corporation 4lbqo
Add jemyk UNASSIGNED :bar_chart: Asia Hong Kong HongKong 1 (hk1) Unicom Wancloud limited z6cfb
Other Nodes
Node Status Continent Country Data Center Owner Node Provider Node Operator
yjbaw UP :bar_chart: Oceania Australia Melbourne 2 (mn2) NEXTDC Icaria Systems Pty Ltd l5lhp
vdvh4 UP :bar_chart: Europe Belgium Brussels (br1) Digital Realty Allusion mjeqs
xbcli UP :bar_chart: North America Canada Toronto 2 (to2) Cyxtera Blockchain Development Labs 4lp6i
pzhdx UP :bar_chart: Europe Switzerland Zurich 2 (zh2) Everyware DFINITY Stiftung db7fe
dd3ye UP :bar_chart: Europe Germany Frankfurt 2 (fr2) Equinix Virtual Hive Ltd 3nu7r
5fpzb UP :bar_chart: Asia India New Delhi 1 (nd1) Marvelous Web3 DC Marvelous Web3 ri4lg
fqczw UP :bar_chart: Asia Korea (the Republic of) Seoul 3 (kr1) KT Pindar Technology Limited iubpe
tkoxk UP :bar_chart: Europe Romania Bucharest (bu1) M247 Iancu Aurel c5ssg
vtbf4 UP :bar_chart: Asia Singapore Singapore 2 (sg2) Telin OneSixtyTwo Digital Capital qffmn
c6on3 UP :bar_chart: Europe Slovenia Ljubljana (lj1) Posita.si Fractal Labs AG gl27f
ucznq UP :bar_chart: North America United States of America (the) Dallas (dl1) Flexential 87m Neuron, LLC mw64v
yszpk UP :bar_chart: Africa South Africa Gauteng 2 (jb2) Africa Data Centres Honeycomb Capital (Pty) Ltd 3bohy


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Proposal 135996 | Tim - CodeGov

Vote: Adopt

This proposal replaces 1 node in subnet pjljw, appearing in the decentralization tool as “UP”, for the purpose of making it available to other subnets in order to improve overall network topology. As shown in the proposal, decentralisation parameters are unchanged and remain within the requirements of the target topology.

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