Subnet Management - cv73p (Application)

This topic is intended to capture Subnet Management activities over time for the cv73p subnet, providing a place to ask questions and make observations about the management of this subnet.

At the time of creating this topic the current subnet configuration is as follows:

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{
  "version": 44477,
  "records": [
    {
      "key": "subnet_record_cv73p-6v7zi-u67oy-7jc3h-qspsz-g5lrj-4fn7k-xrax3-thek2-sl46v-jae",
      "version": 44477,
      "value": {
        "membership": [
          "jemyk-uhint-w6ftv-s3xpy-ne4hr-xbcpu-aqskm-6a4cy-orm5q-aqqwd-gqe",
          "dnorv-obqlt-6fl2s-ylxsf-o6pwv-fssdj-63kdj-jjw5d-luhdg-xe2zn-2ae",
          "m2yt5-mn7lw-76bqj-ijlgn-55n3k-xbjzl-43olv-6xi4p-2ecp4-eipxu-xae",
          "lkrgq-rqmms-blrdo-24alx-2jrtz-xl5qm-dk6xc-o5fvc-o2huw-bxtqs-wqe",
          "eu2gw-3uj2c-vhwzo-kx3tz-cmnte-3gymk-tza4c-z66f6-uuksx-x3g2m-xqe",
          "jsaui-j3qrn-3i3m3-xdn2s-bad3f-5kwlu-36gej-i75ik-5fjrg-z3jge-bqe",
          "i7u4k-qo5lu-w2ynn-m7iec-lit7d-prf44-3fy7c-hvwqw-wwhdw-f6tdr-uae",
          "njsmq-lvuj4-fo325-pt3od-f5zqr-j64dp-u5l6n-kdffj-3gvvr-3rbfa-wqe",
          "ek3yy-o3qk4-xivlj-qik4h-tgbwt-kmyyv-po3lm-hhwll-o7p3w-qrc4s-hqe",
          "4d2sj-eqwzi-m7s5g-uj33s-wieqq-kgzyk-qzywl-ptltz-7zryd-sdbsc-uqe",
          "hgvcj-xdftg-62bcj-s66dr-rsshe-rmj6x-mzlvg-65ytj-3wapx-ig6js-mqe",
          "3fgii-zd73c-ftxy2-ypsbx-hnqf2-nzhc6-veurh-bru27-mz6bg-j62qd-xqe",
          "tfw5b-kpj3p-bniym-lllfz-fzcuq-4c65m-xqv3y-dy44l-fvmsn-yebii-pqe"
        ],
        "nodes": {},
        "max_ingress_bytes_per_message": 2097152,
        "max_ingress_messages_per_block": 1000,
        "max_block_payload_size": 4194304,
        "unit_delay_millis": 1000,
        "initial_notary_delay_millis": 600,
        "replica_version_id": "2c0b76cfc7e596d5c4304cff5222a2619294c8c1",
        "dkg_interval_length": 499,
        "start_as_nns": false,
        "subnet_type": "application",
        "features": {
          "canister_sandboxing": false,
          "http_requests": true,
          "sev_enabled": false
        },
        "max_number_of_canisters": 120000,
        "ssh_readonly_access": [],
        "ssh_backup_access": [],
        "ecdsa_config": null,
        "chain_key_config": null
      }
    }
  ]
}

There’s an open proposal for changing subnet membership - https://dashboard.internetcomputer.org/proposal/131417. This information is presented below:

  • red marker represents a removed node
  • green marker represents an added node
  • highlighted patches represent the country a node sits within

Table
Country Data Center Owner Node Provider Node
--- Germany Munich (mu1) q.beyond Staking Facilities 4d2sj-eqwzi-m7s5g-uj33s-wieqq-kgzyk-qzywl-ptltz-7zryd-sdbsc-uqe
+++ Romania Bucharest (bu1) M247 Iancu Aurel wihnn-o5yix-kkneh-33pvm-ybil3-4rdf3-vu3w2-6lmg4-76yu3-feyyd-cae
Belgium Brussels (br1) Digital Realty Allusion ek3yy-o3qk4-xivlj-qik4h-tgbwt-kmyyv-po3lm-hhwll-o7p3w-qrc4s-hqe
Canada Fremont (fm1) Hurricane Electric Adam Dymecki m2yt5-mn7lw-76bqj-ijlgn-55n3k-xbjzl-43olv-6xi4p-2ecp4-eipxu-xae
Switzerland Geneva 2 (ge2) SafeHost Archery Blockchain SCSp hgvcj-xdftg-62bcj-s66dr-rsshe-rmj6x-mzlvg-65ytj-3wapx-ig6js-mqe
Switzerland Zurich 2 (zh2) Everyware DFINITY Operations SA lkrgq-rqmms-blrdo-24alx-2jrtz-xl5qm-dk6xc-o5fvc-o2huw-bxtqs-wqe
China HongKong 1 (hk1) Unicom Wancloud limited jemyk-uhint-w6ftv-s3xpy-ne4hr-xbcpu-aqskm-6a4cy-orm5q-aqqwd-gqe
Japan Tokyo (ty1) Equinix Starbase tfw5b-kpj3p-bniym-lllfz-fzcuq-4c65m-xqv3y-dy44l-fvmsn-yebii-pqe
Singapore Singapore (sg1) Telin OneSixtyTwo Digital Capital 3fgii-zd73c-ftxy2-ypsbx-hnqf2-nzhc6-veurh-bru27-mz6bg-j62qd-xqe
Slovenia Ljubljana 2 (lj2) Anonstake Anonstake dnorv-obqlt-6fl2s-ylxsf-o6pwv-fssdj-63kdj-jjw5d-luhdg-xe2zn-2ae
Slovenia Maribor (mb1) Posita.si Fractal Labs AG njsmq-lvuj4-fo325-pt3od-f5zqr-j64dp-u5l6n-kdffj-3gvvr-3rbfa-wqe
United States of America (the) Allentown (aw1) Tierpoint Bigger Capital eu2gw-3uj2c-vhwzo-kx3tz-cmnte-3gymk-tza4c-z66f6-uuksx-x3g2m-xqe
United States of America (the) Orlando (or1) Datasite Giant Leaf, LLC i7u4k-qo5lu-w2ynn-m7iec-lit7d-prf44-3fy7c-hvwqw-wwhdw-f6tdr-uae
United States of America (the) Portland (pl1) Flexential 87m Neuron, LLC jsaui-j3qrn-3i3m3-xdn2s-bad3f-5kwlu-36gej-i75ik-5fjrg-z3jge-bqe

The removed node is replaced with a node based in Romania. I’ve verified that this node is currently unassigned.

The proposal mentions that his change is needed due to the Munich (mu1) data centre being due for decommissioning. See here for more discussion and references.

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DFINITY will submit an NNS proposal today to reduce the notarization delay on the subnet, cv73p, similar to what has happened on other subnets in recent weeks (you can find all details in this forum thread).

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Voted to adopt proposal 133073. The initial_notary_delay_millis is set to 300 and the subnet_id is correct.

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Voted to adopt proposal 134179, as the reasoning is sound and the description matches the payload. This proposal replaces 2 healthy nodes, both of which appear as “Active” on the IC dashboard. The proposed change improves decentralisation with respect to country and brings the target topology parameters to within the requirements.

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Proposal 134179

TLDR: I’m planning to adopt. This proposal brings this subnet inline with the IC Target Topology, by reducing the max number of nodes per country from 3 to 2.

This does however increase the max number of nodes per continent from 6 to 8. Nevertheless, countries are considered to be more important than continents (and are a formal part of the IC Target Topology, whereas continents are not).

Motivation:

  • replacing node m2yt5-mn7lw-76bqj-ijlgn-55n3k-xbjzl-43olv-6xi4p-2ecp4-eipxu-xae to optimize network topology
  • replacing node jsaui-j3qrn-3i3m3-xdn2s-bad3f-5kwlu-36gej-i75ik-5fjrg-z3jge-bqe to optimize network topology

2 American nodes replaced with 2 European nodes.

Decentralisation Stats

Subnet node distance stats (distance between any 2 nodes in the subnet) →

Smallest Distance Average Distance Largest Distance
EXISTING 0 km 6851.289 km 15377.131 km
PROPOSED 0 km 6014.926 km (-12.2%) 15377.131 km

This proposal slightly reduces decentralisation, considered purely in terms of geographic distance (and therefore there’s a slight theoretical reduction in localised disaster resilience). :-1:

Subnet characteristic counts →

Continents Countries Data Centers Owners Node Providers Node Operator
EXISTING 3 10 13 13 13 13
PROPOSED 3 11 (+9.1%) 13 13 13 13

This proposal slightly improves decentralisation in terms of jurisdiction diversity. :+1:

Largest number of nodes with the same characteristic (e.g. continent, country, data center, etc.) →

Continent Country Data Center Owner Node Provider Node Operator
EXISTING 6 3 1 1 1 1
PROPOSED 8 (+33.34%) 2 (-33.34%) 1 1 1 1

See here for acceptable limits → Motion 132136

The above subnet information is illustrated below, followed by a node reference table:

Map Description
  • Red marker represents a removed node (transparent center for overlap visibility)
  • Green marker represents an added node
  • Blue marker represents an unchanged node
  • Highlighted patches represent the country the above nodes sit within (red if the country is removed, green if added, otherwise grey)
  • Light grey markers with yellow borders are examples of unassigned nodes that would be viable candidates for joining the subnet according to formal decentralisation coefficients (so this proposal can be viewed in the context of alternative solutions that are not being used)

Table
Continent Country Data Center Owner Node Provider Node Operator Node Status Performance
--- Americas Canada Fremont (fm1) Hurricane Electric Adam Dymecki 4q2h5 m2yt5-mn7lw-76bqj-ijlgn-55n3k-xbjzl-43olv-6xi4p-2ecp4-eipxu-xae UP :bar_chart:
--- Americas United States of America (the) Portland (pl1) Flexential 87m Neuron, LLC lz4fy jsaui-j3qrn-3i3m3-xdn2s-bad3f-5kwlu-36gej-i75ik-5fjrg-z3jge-bqe UP :bar_chart:
+++ Europe Spain Madrid 3 (ma3) IPCore Maksym Ishchenko wtsc7 2mmpk-6kvr3-3syvq-twao3-g3fxc-gz3n2-o3tgf-34irb-idruv-cogfq-sqe UNASSIGNED :bar_chart:
+++ Europe Lithuania Vilnius 1 (bt1) Baltneta Ivanov Oleksandr y3du2 ax6zb-r4jnm-5aswz-ahoqx-ujs2a-mcvds-6gmdt-4ggxg-tkwdr-3323l-vqe UNASSIGNED :bar_chart:
Europe Belgium Brussels (br1) Digital Realty Allusion mjeqs ek3yy-o3qk4-xivlj-qik4h-tgbwt-kmyyv-po3lm-hhwll-o7p3w-qrc4s-hqe UP :bar_chart:
Europe Switzerland Zurich 2 (zh2) Everyware DFINITY Operations SA wqyl3 lkrgq-rqmms-blrdo-24alx-2jrtz-xl5qm-dk6xc-o5fvc-o2huw-bxtqs-wqe UP :bar_chart:
Asia China HongKong 1 (hk1) Unicom Wancloud limited z6cfb jemyk-uhint-w6ftv-s3xpy-ne4hr-xbcpu-aqskm-6a4cy-orm5q-aqqwd-gqe UP :bar_chart:
Europe Germany Geneva 2 (ge2) SafeHost Archery Blockchain SCSp 5atxd hgvcj-xdftg-62bcj-s66dr-rsshe-rmj6x-mzlvg-65ytj-3wapx-ig6js-mqe UP :bar_chart:
Asia Japan Tokyo (ty1) Equinix Starbase cqjev tfw5b-kpj3p-bniym-lllfz-fzcuq-4c65m-xqv3y-dy44l-fvmsn-yebii-pqe UP :bar_chart:
Europe Romania Bucharest (bu1) M247 Iancu Aurel c5ssg wihnn-o5yix-kkneh-33pvm-ybil3-4rdf3-vu3w2-6lmg4-76yu3-feyyd-cae UP :bar_chart:
Asia Singapore Singapore (sg1) Telin OneSixtyTwo Digital Capital d4bin 3fgii-zd73c-ftxy2-ypsbx-hnqf2-nzhc6-veurh-bru27-mz6bg-j62qd-xqe UP :bar_chart:
Europe Slovenia Ljubljana 2 (lj2) Anonstake Anonstake eu5wc dnorv-obqlt-6fl2s-ylxsf-o6pwv-fssdj-63kdj-jjw5d-luhdg-xe2zn-2ae UP :bar_chart:
Europe Slovenia Maribor (mb1) Posita.si Fractal Labs AG 3xiew njsmq-lvuj4-fo325-pt3od-f5zqr-j64dp-u5l6n-kdffj-3gvvr-3rbfa-wqe UP :bar_chart:
Americas United States of America (the) Allentown (aw1) Tierpoint Bigger Capital codio eu2gw-3uj2c-vhwzo-kx3tz-cmnte-3gymk-tza4c-z66f6-uuksx-x3g2m-xqe UP :bar_chart:
Americas United States of America (the) Orlando (or1) Datasite Giant Leaf, LLC redpf i7u4k-qo5lu-w2ynn-m7iec-lit7d-prf44-3fy7c-hvwqw-wwhdw-f6tdr-uae UP :bar_chart:

Known Neurons to follow if you're too busy to keep on top of things like this

If you found this analysis helpful and would like to follow the vote of the LORIMER known neuron in the future, consider configuring LORIMER as a followee for the Subnet Management topic.

Another good neuron to follow is Synapse (follows the LORIMER and CodeGov known neurons for Subnet Management, and is a generally well informed known neuron to follow on numerous other topics)

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Voted to adopt proposal #134179.

The proposal replaces 2 healthy Active status nodes form Fremont and Portland, both from US this way reducing Country from 4 to 2, in order to optimize network topology.

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Voted to adopt proposal 134179. The proposal replaces two nodes from subnet cv73p:
Removed Nodes: m2yt5, jsaui.
Added Nodes: 2mmpk and ax6zb.
The proposal was verified using the DRE tool to verify the metrics stated. All nodes replaced are healthy but this replacements improve the network topology on the country metric reducing the number of nodes in the US from 4 to 2.

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