Proposal: Update Interim Gen-1 Node Provider Remuneration After 48 months

Voted to adopt proposal 134534.

The proposal adds a new node operator ID for node provider Starbase. The node provider ID and data centre ID given in the proposal match the information for data centre TY1 in the dashboard. The document hashes given in the Wiki match the documents. The addition of the new node operator ID is consistent with the processes outlined in the current thread for reconfiguring existing Gen-1 nodes under the new remuneration structure. The current nodes for this NP in data centres TY1 and TY3 total 41, consistent with the agreed maximum of 42 and the statement of intent here.

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Proposal #134534 Review — Quint | Aviate Labs

Vote: ADOPT
Review:

  • Add 28 nodes, (migrating to the HSM-less deployment method)
  • The DC ID matches.
  • Starbase, NP ID sixix-2nyqd-t2k2v-vlsyz-dssko-ls4hl-hyij4-y7mdp-ja6cj-nsmpf-yae.
  • Previous NO ID (cqjev-4qb7l-xv373-jfmhi-73n3a-cxhst-p6okb-vywwc-a4zbi-6sf3u-bae) associated with this data center shows 28 "type1" nodes, matching the allowance proposed in this proposal.

Read more: Motion Proposal 132553, clarified in: Proposal: Update Interim Gen-1 Node Provider Remuneration After 48 months - #6 by 162DC

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Proposal #134534 Review — Roald | Aviate Labs

Vote: ADOPT
Review
This proposal seeks to add 28 nodes to a data center as part of the migration to the HSM-less deployment method. Once these nodes are onboarded, the old record will be deprecated, maintaining alignment with the IC target topology.

Key points of validation:

  1. DC ID: The data center ID in the proposal is consistent with what is shown on the dashboard: ty1
  2. Node Provider: The data center TY1 hosts nodes for the provider Starbase, with NP ID: sixix-2nyqd-t2k2v-vlsyz-dssko-ls4hl-hyij4-y7mdp-ja6cj-nsmpf-yae.
  3. Previous Node Operator: The associated NO ID cqjev-4qb7l-xv373-jfmhi-73n3a-cxhst-p6okb-vywwc-a4zbi-6sf3u-bae shows 28 nodes, matching the count proposed. (check NO ID)
  4. Node Type: The old NO ID also verifies these as Gen-1 nodes, noted as "type1": 28. This is consistent with motion proposal 132553, which governs the remuneration framework for Gen-1 nodes after 48 months.

For these reasons, I recommend a vote to Adopt.

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Proposal 134534

Vote: ADOPT

As part of the Steps for Gen-1 Node onboarding after 48 months, the Node Provider Starbase is creating a Node Operator to hold 28 nodes in the ty1 DC.
All the required steps were followed:

  1. A Forum post by the NP :white_check_mark:
  2. The self-declaration and Proof of Identity documents were uploaded on the IC Wiki :white_check_mark:
  3. The hashes of the Self declaration and Proof of Identity documents match the hashes in the proposal :white_check_mark:
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Hello everyone,

Please find the necessary information regarding our nodes under the new remuneration structure.

Self-Declaration Link: 43rd Big Idea Films, LLC - Internet Computer Wiki

Node Count: 14 under the new remuneration structure

Data Center: TRG Houston (TRG)

Node Deployment Confirmation: Two nodes have been successfully deployed with IPv4 addresses and a domain name in the specified data center

Start Date for New Reward Values: Jan 31, 2025

Contact Information: Element/Matrix @charles_witte:matrix.org, @johncharris2023:matrix.org

Let us know if you have any questions.

Best regards,
Charles

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Proposal 134659 Review | Louise - Aviate Labs

Vote: ADOPT
Review:

  • Though this proposal appears to add 14 nodes, the proposer clarified that this is necessary for migrating to the HSM-less deployment method. They also committed to deprecating the old record once the nodes in this data center have been onboarded, keeping this aligned with the IC target topology.
  • The DC ID in the proposal matches what is displayed on the dashboard.
  • This data center also hosts nodes for the node provider Starbase, with the node provider ID sixix-2nyqd-t2k2v-vlsyz-dssko-ls4hl-hyij4-y7mdp-ja6cj-nsmpf-yae.
  • The previous Node Operator ID (a5glg-n6ul6-rkuc7-idthk-fb2fe-d5m75-4g4l7-22yko-h27pr-q3a7k-lae) associated with this data center shows 14 nodes, matching the allowance proposed in this proposal.
  • The old NO ID also verifies that these are Gen-1 nodes as indicated by the "type1": 14 in the image above, meaning that they are in line with motion proposal 132553 for node rewards after 48 months.
  • For the reasons above, I vote to Adopt
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Proposal #134659 Review — Quint | Aviate Labs

Vote: ADOPT
Review:

  • Add 14 nodes, (migrating to the HSM-less deployment method)
  • The DC ID matches.
  • Starbase, NP ID sixix-2nyqd-t2k2v-vlsyz-dssko-ls4hl-hyij4-y7mdp-ja6cj-nsmpf-yae.
  • Previous NO ID (a5glg-n6ul6-rkuc7-idthk-fb2fe-d5m75-4g4l7-22yko-h27pr-q3a7k-lae) associated with this data center shows 14 "type1" nodes, matching the allowance proposed in this proposal.
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There is reference to this forum post and the proposal is in line with the declaration and statement of 87M as well as of Uvaca. The request for cordoning is based on redeploying all existing (non excess) nodes of 87M without HSM, for which new Node Operator records have been created in proposals 134506 and 134507 with reference to the previous forum post.

Other node providers like Starbase have prepared similar NO proposals submitted for HSM less deployment of there existing nodes (see 134534)

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Hi @SvenF. Could you copy the text or screenshot where you see this reference in the proposal?

There is reference in the original proposals 134505 and 134507 to the original forum post in the New NP Proposal thread if that is what you mean, similar to what e.g. Starbase has done, and as @ZackDS referenced in his review post.

You referenced my rejection of proposal 134619, but you’re referring to other proposals now. The proposal in question (the one I rejected) was submitted without a reference to a forum post by the NP to backup the claims in the proposal. You previously agreed that this is how things should be done.

Proposal 134659 | Tim - CodeGov

Vote: Adopt

The proposal adds a new node operator ID for node provider Starbase. The node provider ID and data centre ID given in the proposal match the information for data centre TY3 in the dashboard. The addition of the new node operator ID is consistent with the processes outlined in the current thread for reconfiguring existing Gen-1 nodes under the new remuneration structure. The current nodes for this NP in data centres TY1 and TY3 total 41, consistent with the agreed maximum of 42 and the statement of intent here.

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Proposal 134659 – LaCosta | CodeGov

Vote: ADOPT

As part of the Steps for Gen-1 Node onboarding after 48 months, the Node Provider Starbase is creating a Node Operator to hold 14 nodes in the ty3 DC.
All the required steps were followed:

  1. A Forum post by the NP :white_check_mark:
  2. The self-declaration and Proof of Identity documents were uploaded on the IC Wiki :white_check_mark:
  3. The hashes of the Self declaration and Proof of Identity documents match the hashes in the proposal :white_check_mark:
    image

Currently the NP has a total of 42 Gen-1 nodes, proposal 134534 added a NO with a node_allowance of 28 nodes from ty1 DC and this proposal added a NO with a node_allowance of 14 nodes from ty3 matching the maximum of 42 Gen-1 nodes.

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Proposal #134659 Review — Roald | Aviate Labs
Vote: ADOPT
Review:

  1. The DC ID ty3 aligns with the information presented on the dashboard.
  2. The data center hosts nodes for the node provider Starbase, with the node provider ID: sixix-2nyqd-t2k2v-vlsyz-dssko-ls4hl-hyij4-y7mdp-ja6cj-nsmpf-yae.
  3. The previous Node Operator ID: a5glg-n6ul6-rkuc7-idthk-fb2fe-d5m75-4g4l7-22yko-h27pr-q3a7k-lae in this data center confirms 14 nodes of “type1”, matching the allowance proposed in the current proposal:

This proposal is aligned with motion proposal 132553 on node rewards for Gen-1 nodes after 48 months.

For these reasons, I vote to Adopt.

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Hello everyone,
Please find the necessary information regarding our nodes under the new remuneration structure.

  • Self declaration post: Blocktech Ventures LLC - Internet Computer Wiki
  • Nodes that will run under new remuneration model: 28
  • Data Centers: SJ2
  • IPv4 Node Redeployment: Yes
  • Start date for new reward values: February 1st, 2025
  • Contact Information: info@blocktech.vc

Let me know if you have any questions

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Hi @DavidM . Can you add any detail re proposal 134665? Three nodes are slated for removal but it’s not clear why.

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Hi Tim - we have several severs with hardware issues that the aftermarket warranty company has been struggling to diagnose and fix. There is no LT intention to drop any nodes from the network.

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Thanks David. This must have been submitted by mistake. I’ll flag this for the attention of other reviewers.
@LaCosta @ZackDS @louisevelayo @quint @roald-av8 @wpb @sat

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Hi Tim, I misunderstood. To clarify, there is no intention to drop the nodes from the network, however, as I am currently doing the HSM less migration, the nodes do need to be removed from the registry in order for me to transfer them to the new NO principal. (See this proposal: 134506 and 134507).

I have already done this for the majority of the nodes as you can see on the dashboard, they now have the new and update NO ID. These remaining ones I must have missed and so I guess DFINITY(?) has submitted this proposal.

Just a heads up that I just removed the following node myself “z6jp6-245uu-gh3cs-sblcy-f3jmj-s4ngl-v3z4u-lafz2-qudjr-6mbqx-vqe” earlier today whilst working with the data center remote hands - not sure if this affects this proposal.

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Hey @ZackDS @LaCosta @roald-av8 @louisevelayo @quint please note this additional clarification from @DavidM regarding proposal 134665 in response to the original question from @timk11.

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