Nearly 2 years has passed since I discovered ICP, and at that point the number of nodes was somewhere around 1120. Now after a brief search it appears the number has increased to only 1137, with 80% of nodes under centralized control. That is not what I call planetary growth. So…is ICP EVER going …

The IC isn’t ready for an overnight transition like that. This will take decades. But the IC already provides utility. It will only be increasing (on average) over time as adoption steadily ramps up, builders keep on building, and users keep on using.

[image] wwsteel: they simultaneously chose to migrate over all their sites and traffic from web 2.0, If they were to switch simultaneously, ICP would struggle to onboard that many nodes at once. While this scenario is unlikely, a sudden surge in new dApps adopted by a massive number of users…

ICP cannot scale, that was proven by Yral. To put it more accurately, it can accommodate many small dApps but not huge ones. So, if you imagine an ecosystem made of a million dApps, each with very few users, ICP is great for that. But if you think of dApps with a massive user base, that’s not going …

[image] Moschus: that’s not going to happen on ICP because individual subnets are severely limited and working across multiple subnets creates speed and security issues. Please provide a technical explanation for your reasoning rather than just making baseless claims.

I did provide a basis for what I said, but maybe you haven’t been keeping in touch with discussions here. Please read this thread, including the question I asked near the end of it that went unanswered: LAMENT: A tale of constant struggle of what it's like trying to scale on ICP

[image] Moschus: Please read this thread, including the question I asked near the end This one? What am I missing? [image] LAMENT: A tale of constant struggle of what it's like trying to scale on ICP @Manu I would like to hear your response to what @saikatdas0790 posted about problems wit…

Blockquote Why one canister per user? Would you do the same thing web2? Like c’mon now: ChatGPT - One User Per Canister

I kind of agree with that assertion. My reasoning is that a dapp of any reasonably big size, one with millions of users, will likely choose to launch its own chain. We don’t have that flexibility on the IC yet.

[image] Moschus: ICP cannot scale, that was proven by Yral. To put it more accurately, it can accommodate many small dApps but not huge ones. So, if you imagine an ecosystem made of a million dApps, each with very few users, ICP is great for that. But if you think of dApps with a massive user ba…

[image] marcio: My reasoning is that a dapp of any reasonably big size, one with millions of users, will likely choose to launch its own chain. Uhhh…so how is that possible to launch one’s own decentralized blockchain?

Is ICP a pipe dream?

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