Introducing the Swiss Subnet: A Secure and Compliant Blockchain Infrastructure Leveraging the Internet Computer Protocol

Erm no he’s a great dev. I just invested in most SNSes to help the ecosystem. Those guys had gratitude and helped me out, and as a result I’m happy I was there to fund them.

Good luck with that…it’s cute that you think you are making an impact. Unless DFINITY decides to make major changes to the definition of liquid democracy, you won’t change my goal of helping advance decentralization of the NNS and specific SNS projects in credible and reliable ways. I’m confident that I’m on the right side of history on this one.

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Advance centralisation you mean. You’ve been coveting voting power since day one, with no skin in the game.

ummm guys, this thread is about a swiss subnet.

can we stop arguing about who voted what and discuss why or why not this should be passed? I am curious to know thoughts of people more knowledgable than me about subnet architecture and what the ramifications of this passing would be ( I have no clue!)

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This stared because Adam made a claim of wenzel voting to reject this proposal under wtn dao. When in fact Adam rejected the proposal to spin this narrative.

Ask Adam why he voted to reject in wtn but accept on his personal nns neuron.

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What @Mico said… …………

Hey @Leadership, why was Mico’s comment hidden.

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I agree that the topic was derailed. I’m not particularly concerned as to who or how it was derailed because it happens so much.

I just want to know from people like @Lorimer, @ZackDS, @timk11 , @LaCosta … what are the implications of this passing? Because I don’t understand it enough to make an informed decision or even begin to form an opinion.

If you are a subnet topology expert I didn’t leave you out as a slight, those are just the names I see in the subnet threads, and clearly know what they’re talking about more than this rabble. (myself included).

so can we please cut the noise and let the experts chime in?

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The proposal was already executed 9 hours ago. SO PLEASE STOP SPAMMING every thread, we all know you are one of Adams troll’s that managed to turn this thread as well into a mess, again showing disrespect not only to Swiss_Subnet and Dfinity but everyone !!!
It has no implications to you. Maybe if you took the time and actually read something instead of writing useless spam you may actually have a clue about why " the swiss subnet is in the target topology" and SRC.

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Sorry? do you know who I am?

Hi my name is Dan, I’m a Soldier by profession and an enjoyer of building websites and writing software by hobby.

I am not employed, paid, have any financial connection to, borovan or anyone else on this forum for that matter. I am vocal on this forum because I believe I represent a unique voice that is not represented by the majority of people who post here. And of course I have my own 8 year interests.

I asked for your opinion on the implications for this proposal because I care. I know it was excecuted, I thought that YOU as a respected contributor to this community might care to share your expert opinion on why this would improve the network. But if you find it beneath yourself, you are not required to respond to me.

It is hubris like yours, and a lack of basic English written into technical proposals that make governance decisions impossible for regular people. But I am the problem because one time I wrote some words you didn’t like. right?

If you don’t like my posts, I’m sorry. I follow the same rules as everyone else who posts in this forum.

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I would personally like to see all the off topic comments moved to one of the threads focusing on liquid staking decentralisation. Good shout on trying to get things back on track @WebTreeSoftwareSolut. In the future you could trying reaching out to @aligatorr89 and @MalithHatananchchige for questions too, they’re very involved in voting on subnet management proposals, and are also members of CO.DELTA.


I think @fxgst’s post clarified the direct consequences of this proposal. Funds have been reserved by this proposal for renting the new subnet (which doesn’t exist yet).

The interesting bits will be the node onboarding proposals, particularly given the upheaval and proposed changes in that area.

Thanks @fxgst, am I right in expecting that at most only one node in the new subnet can be owned by the Swiss Subnet AG, who cannot be a UBO connected to any of the other nodes?

Is there any more detailed information anywhere about the strategy for encouraging more nodes to be onboarded by separate independent entities? Will new Node Providers need to be onboarded, or just new nodes from existing Node Providers?

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@Swiss_Subnet

Your replies to queries in this thread sound very corpo-raty

As per my understanding, a group of experts (you @Swiss_Subnet ) want to create a brand around Subnets hosted in Switzerland?

Like GDPR? I do not understand what the innovation here is

PS: I’ve done a 5 minute research on external links you provided and the socials you shared

My opinion → Bearish due to lack of clarity and credible information in the posts here and socials.

Okay you guys are collaborating with DFINITY Foundation and UTOPIA behind closed doors for these centralized subnets.

https://dashboard.internetcomputer.org/proposal/136408

The proposal ^.

Then where is your rationale? I believe @WebTreeSoftwareSolut is asking for a RATIONALE here.

Unless you are against discussions and trasnparency, Zack DShi

So far I can see @Mico’s spammy comments on this thread like every other thread. And DFINITY’s moderators enabling these double standards as usual

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@Lorimer , thanks for raising this question. It is indeed an important point that we only mentioned in the white paper so let’s elaborate:

Node Provider Independence
None of the thirteen proposed node providers will be connected to the Swiss Subnet AG in any capacity — whether as an ultimate beneficial owner (UBO), technology provider, or in any other role.

Onboarding New Node Providers
Ten new node providers in Switzerland and three in Liechtenstein will be onboarded through the NNS standard operating procedure.

Current Deployment and Centralization
Currently, Switzerland has 185 IC nodes across 9 data centers in only two cities (Geneva and Zurich). We aim to decentralize this network by adding nodes in nine additional cantons as well as in Liechtenstein.

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Tell me what I lied about, what I cheated, and what FUD i spread, please.

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I’ll let the public on this forum be the judge of that. Apparently the moderators disagree with you because they keep allowing my posts to go through. Seems maybe others disagree with your assessment of my contributions.

I don’t even have to respond to anything you’ve said here, you’ve already assassinated yourself politically. Where does your anger with me stem from? I’ve never even talked to you.