Hi everyone! A major pain point for developers is cycle management (“Removal of Cycles Wallet” is currently at the number-2 spot on the DX feedback board ). We’d like to pick up work on this topic soon but would like to collect some community feedback first, of course. We currently envision the fo…

Command dfx cycles --ic seems to be working just fine. So is cycle ledger considered launched? Can people start using it without worrying funds disappearing?

We consider it beta-launched. The dev team still holds control over the canister, so it is still possible for us to change the code without NNS approval, but we plan on handing over control soon :tm: We have not deployed the index canister yet (still under development), so that part is not tested l…

Wait, so I shouldn’t be custodying $$$'s of cycles in there, yet?

Depends on how much you trust me :wink: Seriously speaking: we (the cycles ledger team, 3 people total) still have control over the canister, so we could always rugpull you. But the code is now stable and we don’t have any more security relevant work planned. Next week we’ll discuss if we can finall…

Too late. All our cycles are with you now :new_moon_with_face: P.S. We found another cool hack that we’re using for a UI right now. Previously we relied on the Cycles Wallet UI for our non-CLI users in case they needed to topup canisters. But that’s been a bit wonky for some time now. It looks li…

[image] saikatdas0790: Quick question, any reason why the Candid UI Internet Identity uses identity.internetcomputer.org instead of identity.ic0.app? See this for context: [image] Internet identity and login internet-identity Hi, Internet Identity is accessible on …

:wave: Wanted to check in on this to see how close we are to an NNS controlled cycles ledger. Will the cycle ledger be NNS controlled before the index canister gets deployed, or visa-versa?

We ran into some serious problems with verifiability. If there’s no 100% guaranteed way for people to verify the cycles ledger we won’t hand it over. We’ll have a plan ready early next week.

TLDR: We will reinstall one last time. Please withdraw your cycles. Long version: Hello everyone, bad news with verifiability. The problem: The first few versions of the cycles ledger we deployed were not reproducible builds, meaning that it is not obvious that there are no hidden balances or ap…

Thanks for the communication Severin. We’ve alerted all CycleOps customers that are currently using the Cycle Ledger, and sent out this PSA to get the word out to developers. [image] CycleOps @CycleOps PSA to all Internet Computer Developers 📢 DFINITY is planning to reinstall the Cycl…

Improving the Cycle Management Experience

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