Dear @dfinity team,
Please make voting transparent for all Dfinity/ICA neurons by setting the visibility of the following neurons:
• 1–26
• 29–81
• 1000–1141
• 2000–2055
• 3000–3039
• 4000–4037
Neuron IDs are sourced from vpgeek.app.
(Set visibility to 2)
@diegop please comment.
Thank you!
Apologies for the follow-up. @domwoe , if you have a moment, I’d be grateful for any guidance on this. Thank you!
Hi @pixld8ta, it’s a great idea and community movement on your part!
People’s votes are usually private (see yesterday’s USA presidential election), but if you’re a politician or an influential institution, it’s worth letting people “watch your hands” and clearly communicating your views to avoid speculation (see Elon Musk).
Based on your request, feedback from my coworkers and other members of the ICP Hub Poland community, this NNS proposal has been submitted 
Thank you @pixld8ta for your suggestion, and @krzysztofzelazko for submitting an according motion proposal.
DFINITY’s perspective is as follows:
The motion proposal 133995 does not concern a change to the Internet Computer Protocol itself, but rather it suggests a modification in the behavior of an ecosystem participant (in this instance, DFINITY). In line with our voting guidelines, DFINITY will reject the motion proposal.
However, DFINITY is supportive of the underlying intent to make voting more transparent. To this end, DFINITY plans to make all its neurons public that hold significant voting power. Please note that neurons 27 and 28, which are most material in terms of voting power, are already public.
DFINITY could have waited closer to the end of the voting period to cast theirs, but I think we all know that would look bad on the chart 
Anyway, thanks @bjoernek for your comment!
Hey @bjoernek,
Sorry, but I’m not quite following…
According to the guidelines in the proposal:
Tangible - The proposal should be understandable and concrete.
This proposal is very concrete—just set visibility to true.
Achievable - The proposal should be something DFINITY believes is achievable.
Definitely achievable! DFINITY already has plans for it.
About the IC and in the interest of the IC
Absolutely—this is a clear win for the community!
So it checks all three boxes, right?
As mentioned above, according to our voting guidelines, we believe that motion proposals should focus on changes to the protocol itself rather than prescribing actions for specific community members. Here are some relevant quotes from the forum post on the voting guideline
This proposal was not intended to force or obligate anyone to do anything but rather to gauge the NNS community’s opinion on the transparency of foundation neurons after the introduction of public & private neuron functionalities. I’m speaking in the past tense because, after the vote cast by their team rejecting it, this will no longer be as reliable a motion proposal. It’s common for most people to align their views with those expressed by DFINITY if it benefits them, but independence on matters of security should not depend on this. I support the idea of protecting voting privacy, as the lack of it could pose significant threats to voting freedom in the future. For example, the excessive transparency regarding the location of each node in ICP subnets could potentially lead to coordinated attacks on them in the future, potentially resulting in partial or even complete network paralysis. However, this would likely happen only if an attack on a particular subnet (e.g., fiduciary) became financially lucrative. In cases where we talk about one of many decentralized entities, and given that the foundation was directly involved and led the initial token allocation while holding the largest voting power in the NNS and openly rejecting certain grassroots social actions aimed at motivating it towards transparency, it’s worth considering what potential future risks might arise. I’m not referring to attacks on the network but rather potential manipulation attempts in the future. Currently, I don’t doubt the good intentions of their team or founders; however, from experience, I know that security forecasts are relatively accurate in the short term, but the further we look into the future, the more unpredictable it becomes.
Is this a joke? There are no protocol changes being proposed here, we just want to see when and how consistently DFINITY neurons are dumping the coin.
Are you selling on us every day, bi-weekly or monthly?
These are simple questions with simple answers. The fact DFINITY voted NO on this proposal proves they have something to hide.
Imagine a proposal came out that asks the NNS to agree that @Heretocope should do X. Regardless of what X is, that’s an unfair proposal (at least according to the motion proposal rules). DFINITY has already stated plans to do exactly what the proposals asks anyway - so the proposal wasn’t needed. By voting yes on the proposal, it would have meant accepting a proposal that violates motion proposal conditions.
That being said, I initially had the same response and was unsure about why the no vote had occurred. I also liked the sounds of the proposal, and was glad that @krzysztofzelazko took the initiative to propose it 
Please advise as to what yo mean by this. I ask because upon checking there seems to be a very small amount of ICP staked in both of these Neurons…
Thanks !
He probably meant that neuron 27 (DFINITY) and 28 (ICA) are most material in terms of voting power, because they are followed by many other neurons and are used to vote many neurons with one. To put it simply.
Off topic @bjoernek: Proposal 134014 is just a temporary payload cosplay. It should have been executed before proposal 134025 to get the intended effect.
Hmmmm, I think that one of the main goals of the proposal was to provide transparency regarding the Maturity of the larger Neurons. So just for clarity @bjoernek is it the plan that all the specified Neurons above are going to be made public ?
Yes, correct this is what I meant. Neuron 27 and 28 are the most material in terms of voting power (due to following).
In addition, as mentioned above, DFINITY intends to make all its neurons public that hold significant voting power (due to their stake or through followers).