Subnet Management - pzp6e (Fiduciary)

Proposal 133444

TLDR: Rejected due to erroneous proposal that would leave the subnet with fewer nodes

3 nodes replaced with nodes in Croatia, Switzerland and Estonia. The Switzerland node is down, hence the need for the proposal. The other nodes are swapped in an attempt to improve decentralisation (a modest improvement in country diversity is achieved, at the slight expense continent decentralisation).

The only problem I see with this proposal is that it pretends to replace 5 nodes, but it’s actually only replacing 3 (the other 2 are removed and added within the same proposal).

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This is normally something that I’d reject. I guess I should ask first, what would the affect actually be of adding and removing nodes within the same proposal? Would this cause the proposal to fail, would it execute and take these 2 nodes out and then bring them in again, or is the behaviour unspecified and therefore not certain? @sat and/or @SvenF, I’d value your opinion on this (I’m not sure who submitted the proposal - it wasn’t announced on the forum).

Decentralisation Stats

Subnet node distance stats (distance between any 2 nodes in the subnet) →

Smallest Distance Average Distance Largest Distance
EXISTING 0 km 7972.045 km 18505.029 km
PROPOSED 0 km 7528.823 km (-5.6%) 18505.029 km

This proposal slightly reduces decentralisation, considered purely in terms of geographic distance (and therefore there’s a slight theoretical reduction in localised disaster resilience).

Subnet characteristic counts →

Continents Countries Data Centers Owners Node Providers
EXISTING 5 23 34 34 34
PROPOSED 5 25 (+8%) 34 34 34

This proposal slightly improves decentralisation in terms of jurisdiction diversity. :+1:

Largest number of nodes with the same characteristic (e.g. continent, country, data center, etc.) →

Continent Country Data Center Owner Node Provider
EXISTING 13 3 1 1 1
PROPOSED 15 (+15.38%) 3 1 1 1

This proposal does lead to a worse situation regarding continents (15 in the same continent in stead of 13). However continent isn’t currently al focus of the IC Target Topology.

See here for acceptable limits → Motion 132136

The above subnet information is illustrated below, followed by a node reference table:

Map Description
  • Red marker represents a removed node (transparent center for overlap visibility)
  • Green marker represents an added node
  • Blue marker represents an unchanged node
  • Highlighted patches represent the country the above nodes sit within (red if the country is removed, green if added, otherwise grey)
  • Light grey markers with yellow borders are examples of unassigned nodes that would be viable candidates for joining the subnet according to formal decentralisation coefficients (so this proposal can be viewed in the context of alternative solutions that are not being used)

Table
Continent Country Data Center Owner Node Provider Node Status
--- Europe Switzerland Zurich 6 (zh6) Green.ch Sygnum Bank yzi7p-lnf22-u2wot-tgxzn-v3ubs-4yuqq-fywh7-4tkk7-ly2xh-r5byg-mqe DOWN
--- Asia China HongKong 3 (hk3) hkcolo Power Meta Corporation zzuq4-xiygt-ypkox-2tgdr-yvpzp-optye-xazeq-vnpw5-pata3-4jlle-wqe UP
--- Asia Korea (the Republic of) Seoul 1 (sl1) Megazone Cloud Neptune Partners wr22o-nmso7-rmkqr-vzkv5-eg2cd-kxx3o-jbjnc-e5tjy-ety5p-rz4vf-uqe UP
--- Americas United States of America (the) Orlando (or1) Datasite Giant Leaf, LLC xelcd-pogkb-lrtry-hfe4m-maxod-fwebb-3fvh7-6sb5b-vs2n2-fkaxz-yqe UP
--- Africa South Africa Gauteng 3 (jb3) Xneelo Wolkboer (Pty) Ltd jlifv-mddo3-zfwdc-x2wmu-xklbj-dai3i-3pvjy-j4hqm-sarqr-fhkq6-zae UP
+++ Europe Switzerland Zurich 7 (zh7) Green.ch Sygnum Bank wagpy-b4c35-wwopp-jmiro-bqnsq-uo2i5-iai72-4yitf-lo7vy-rs5wa-2ae UNASSIGNED
+++ Asia China HongKong 3 (hk3) hkcolo Power Meta Corporation zzuq4-xiygt-ypkox-2tgdr-yvpzp-optye-xazeq-vnpw5-pata3-4jlle-wqe UP
+++ Europe Estonia Tallinn 1 (ta1) InfonetDC Maksym Ishchenko yyjdt-kk2xx-ddp26-4rioj-spbg2-pvh5w-omag3-odlzq-nscru-4k4vq-oae UNASSIGNED
+++ Europe Croatia Zagreb 1 (zg1) Anonstake Anonstake myguv-fs4u6-jl53y-vk4pf-6xojw-4umwc-r55jy-jyy7q-f4gmu-wvliw-2qe UNASSIGNED
+++ Asia Korea (the Republic of) Seoul 1 (sl1) Megazone Cloud Neptune Partners wr22o-nmso7-rmkqr-vzkv5-eg2cd-kxx3o-jbjnc-e5tjy-ety5p-rz4vf-uqe UP
Oceania Australia New South Wales 1 (ns1) Latitude.sh Conic Ventures w7v5s-nethv-crfsc-zzq5e-gibjz-dmmyp-mrl6e-vkvid-g56eh-iilcm-eqe UP
Oceania Australia Queensland 1 (sc1) NEXTDC Karel Frank 3ojqg-v6jhs-frq5l-a3l7k-7xvhc-kolvz-2e4to-pdf4l-xiuem-h72b3-bqe UP
Europe Austria South Moravian Region 1 (bn1) Master Internet Lukas Helebrandt afu64-x2met-w2vxb-4lzus-z4fhf-divej-q46gf-wvpek-dj67h-fptsd-aae UP
Europe Belgium Brussels 2 (br2) AtlasEdge Allusion wgxbt-4e5xm-lsyc6-kazar-7kvzj-7biff-vzt52-2hddx-h3ddg-pfd3n-iae UP
Europe Belgium Seoul 3 (kr1) KT Pindar Technology Limited mhfef-zbxsl-rocpc-ovqeh-jg3ct-7nvmi-gzpnm-xjmm4-uekgj-rquls-uqe UP
Americas Canada Toronto 2 (to2) Cyxtera Blockchain Development Labs flzwv-lslut-uvzxu-nrlrj-64b4q-om4c6-amsu4-nswej-io3nd-4gkkg-6ae UP
Asia China HongKong 4 (hk4) hkntt Origin Game 6ricl-vwbej-yk73y-6ttjb-oefyv-cpjta-7ttqk-e4ucl-5rxsq-v2bag-zae UP
Americas Costa Rica Bogota 1 (bg1) EdgeUno Geeta Kalwani tws6x-33lmm-tptgb-v2tte-opnm4-fychj-thpve-x4ofu-cn4vo-6yuhl-qqe UP
Americas Costa Rica San José 1 (cr1) Navegalo GeoNodes LLC 7muaz-6c5bc-6wjw2-f65xy-i7poz-jwhob-ty26j-ol5dh-hf3oo-dkgb3-6qe UP
Europe Germany Geneva 2 (ge2) SafeHost Archery Blockchain SCSp w2zci-bq5jo-vzrng-42mks-hvytn-she3z-52pej-vmigw-tic67-4prc6-qqe UP
Europe Spain Barcelona 1 (es1) Adam Carbon Twelve rq2bj-ek3yy-mjj6s-zewtq-zzke4-u4zix-tz2xd-xigpz-s5hih-4wpmt-iqe UP
Asia Georgia Tbilisi 1 (tb1) Cloud9 George Bassadone fi2eu-lgaic-n73rv-dsfr6-52z3t-7eto7-pmdg7-r7o7n-agotm-zw6o5-tae UP
Asia India Greater Noida 1 (gn1) Yotta ACCUSET SOLUTIONS snwzs-jy7bs-y6t3i-kegus-3s5xm-ob7yz-bcje6-qjb2m-jgndt-5dvbl-oae UP
Asia India Navi Mumbai 1 (nm1) Rivram Rivram Inc 3y7fy-fd2oe-33qxg-wq7y6-zzplk-33jhm-n4glx-2c7ij-k24nn-jbsst-xae UP
Asia India New Delhi 1 (nd1) Marvelous Web3 DC Marvelous Web3 5wzcz-mfner-c5wor-3liei-7mpao-vkult-zdds6-6n3rg-42ksv-6zzqt-vae UP
Asia Japan Tokyo 2 (ty2) Equinix Starbase gbavy-dj3ok-jnmaa-pnbhh-sgxlp-gzcap-mt5ox-v5cml-eivtx-sodxc-vae UP
Asia Sri Lanka Colombo 1 (cm1) OrionStellar Geodd Pvt Ltd shtwt-kuy74-afhyd-sivzp-nj3vl-vh2zl-hdsvv-yunlj-k3asp-zsigu-cae UP
Europe Lithuania Vilnius 1 (bt1) Baltneta MB Patrankos šūvis c2ewt-wic55-asi27-6eoeu-rn7bq-xjzmz-dzxg2-pxrfw-qeinw-yrj52-7ae UP
Europe Latvia Riga 1 (rg1) DEAC Ivanov Oleksandr eqe4v-xnyd5-sqimm-7qxav-sxmuf-c5jjj-bpqq3-ccpso-g6jqf-2a4yo-bqe UP
Europe Portugal Barreiro 1 (ba1) Online Bitmoon g765q-rteh7-xio4e-vtyea-ww46p-beylc-3e3s3-yhvuy-in6jd-hj5qo-3qe UP
Europe Portugal Lisbon 1 (li1) Dotsi Artem Horodyskyi u3ahx-ft3kq-pzlkr-imzus-aeqxm-cirqv-ymehh-xzctz-os4ud-3a74m-vae UP
Europe Romania Bucharest (bu1) M247 Iancu Aurel j6uir-h4bk3-chdqr-hxnkr-3jp7o-yb3el-skdsd-7oejj-eubk5-5onvy-zae UP
Asia Singapore Singapore (sg1) Telin OneSixtyTwo Digital Capital mh6ne-3zycb-z4p45-lcfrf-lh6of-zelj3-7nuii-mzg7b-zi2ic-s67kx-6qe UP
Europe Slovenia Ljubljana (lj1) Posita.si Fractal Labs AG bkult-ic75e-xfviw-iyidh-tivyz-r7fvw-7r4xt-aawip-cp7vm-4iu2v-rae UP
Europe Sweden Stockholm 1 (sh1) Digital Realty DFINITY Operations SA irpwa-t65vg-ellmb-rg37m-ge5or-g3crz-3vbri-m4spq-eldkq-v2vs7-pae UP
Americas United States of America (the) Atlanta (at1) Flexential Goat, LLC lzveb-mlka7-ectcs-cqg44-him3y-vh6yf-q4vdo-7z45l-3o46m-64awc-5ae UP
Americas United States of America (the) Chicago 3 (ch3) CyrusOne MI Servers sua4d-2yomd-7lnkd-6kumk-tzsqm-mv5dm-prpte-zjtqr-x3d63-bapf4-6ae UP
Africa South Africa Cape Town 2 (ct2) Teraco Kontrapunt (Pty) Ltd ntk4m-3jwml-24enm-akwhr-gps2m-xe36d-qlkd2-scgcu-qmjik-nrk3b-wae UP
Africa South Africa Gauteng 2 (jb2) Africa Data Centres Honeycomb Capital (Pty) Ltd e6334-h54qb-rfmfa-kktez-s5tjs-q2ihe-fazyk-ybuo5-leln6-v3cfi-dae UP

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