Read the conversation in regards to this topic, the sentiment is quite clearly “it’s a functionality not a design flaw - don’t use it if you don’t like it, we might fix it one day”.
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In all fairness to this: You really need to understand that you’re not ‘first through the door here’. People expressing their anger about the ICP token has been going on since its launch. It’s just that now it’s been dying down. Community Conversations, working groups, developer workshops - it didn’t matter; there was always someone in the room who only wanted the conversation to be about one thing. Their investment. Sigh… It’s like they wanted to speak to a human, and didn’t care who the human was; so long as they had Dfinity by their name. And…it’s not like they said their piece and then politely left the room. We want to get back to work, and they won’t leave the room…So childish tactics Ahoy!
Q: So who is the average user of the Internet Computer?
A: That has yet to be determined.
For instance, I think it is ridiculous for someone to even suggest that the average user is even going to be human. We are in the 4th Industrial Revolution. Robots, programs, vending machines and all sorts of machines are going to own their own money. They are going to be needing to buy things, and are even going to be owning their own businesses.
https://apnews.com/article/sarah-silverman-suing-chatgpt-openai-ai-8927025139a8151e26053249d1aeec20
You know what’s really great about the Internet Computer? It’s a Decentralized cloud. Meaning that if you own any data which could be used for AI training models, you can put that information on lockdown. AI technology has just arrived, and it is already more than obvious that ethical collection of data for training AI models is going to be the market. And things like, retail sales figures, aren’t something in which you want to train your models on with data from the 2010s. IC canister holds the encrypted data, and the fetch.ai aea (autonomous economic agent) sells the data.
That’s not any sort of hype, those are some of the future use cases which exist in the IOT ICP world. Technological Innovation takes some time to understand. And the Internet Computer is very innovative; hence- larger learning curve. But, the benefit being that everyone who passes it is just as committed as you are.
I hope you find this information useful. There is so much happening right now, and it is only getting faster. It won’t be too long before the Internet Computer gets its Space Invaders.
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I want to pause and take a moment to remind everyone (including myself) to remain respectful of each other and provide constructive feedback. I really want this conversation to remain a constructive debate. I truly think the actual arguments and rebuttals have been very productive conversations.
@Accumulating.icp I urge you to take a “mental health break”. I am in the same boat as you. There is clearly a force to discredit and silence our voices and opinions. @Thyassa I appreciated the first replies you gave that started off very constructively.
Please I urge you for the sake of true debate and passion for the IC let’s do better. Let’s all be better than this. I do not believe @Accumulating.icp was intending to mean anything misogynistic. However, if that was how it was perceived, @Accumulating.icp I urge you to stop, take a breath, and address that with sincerity. In full disclosure, AND in all fairness to @borovan I have had my fair share of emotional slips. I am trying my best to create healthy discussion and civil discourse.
I always truly appreciate the opposing opinions, and in fact I at times do try (possibly not well) to invoke spirited debate for the various reasons mentioned. I would have loved to hear your actual opinions, rather than be attacked by, or bullied by you. Obviously, you have a lot you could have brought to this discussion. No one needs to discredit anyone or continue the cycle of disrespect.
Now, let’s get back to the true debate(s) and points raised in this thread, please…
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I respect this opinion. I really truly do and am glad you mentioned it. However, I have mentioned (in my long-winded remarks), I have been here, watched, witnessed, was impacted by, got over, moved on, continued my journey in silence, and have tried to get back to work per se. However, in this geographic area, the work cannot happen unless the IC community is willing to work with the regulators to ensure they are in compliance at the very least when providing services, possible ICOs/ Securities, and possibly exchanges that could be seen as unregistered exchanges and (or) securities.
Again, not constructive.
I would agree with this point personally. I don’t think it covers nor addresses the biases and ethical concerns raised.
I am honestly glad you brought up the AI segway. I think Chat GPT is an excellent segway into ethical concerns. Recently, the CEO of their company had several conversations about the need for proper regulation and very strict ethics in place for upcoming AI. So, I am glad you mentioned this. It actually helps further my (along with others) points. These are ethical obligations needing to be upheld or at the very least discussed inside the community. Not on social media forms. The company of Chat GPT recently agreed and is willing to work with and stay in compliance. All I would expect is the IC does the same. At the very least in the areas that require it.
Personally, I struggle with a variety of issues this form has in the T/C itself. However, this forum is the best way to engage in thoughtful dialogue. I urge everyone (again) to keep it respectful.
Thanks,
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No such thing as bad publicity!
I stand by every word. what else you got? and more importantly why do you care?
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please no baiting here.
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Bailing? Never im not going to back down.
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Hurt people hurt people
Nobody has this little of a sense of humour, this is completely prefabricated narrative. If you make a single step outside the party line it’s obvious and out of character.
@diegop @Ang moderators really need to moderate. You’ve allowed this individual to disrupt and continue harassing us for how long?
@diegop @Ang @kpeacock it would be swell if we could get a moderator over here. For the millionth time.
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@diegop @kpeacock @Ang nothing? Just going to let this individual continue spamming the thread and making direct attacks?
Actually I know the answer to that, sorry. Let’s just stick with “what companies have you helped / investred in [sic]”
Who wants to own a Draggin?
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@diegop this seems to be getting out of hand. Just figured I’d tag you for awareness
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Ah ok, you’re going with “large donor”. Not as bad as I thought.
I made a career out of being myself and made the biggest game on the internet from 1999-2015 and I haven’t changed or diverted from that path.
Don’t need counselling, have a great life and an even greater game. I’m doing this to make the IC great because it deserves it.
Why you’re here focusing on me though, that’s a bit weird. On holiday with my kids, coding the biggest web3 MMO in Rust, and just wondering why some guy is constantly trying to undermine the platform Im building on.
Because it makes no sense (unless you were trying to destroy it)
Goodnight, Walter
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I have tagged and notified several moderators they plain and simply do not care. They are going to keep letting this go on as a means to silence my own opinion about them, and other community members.
Why stay here? Who’s paying you to hang around on the forums, pretend to be intelligent and constant;y attack people?
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maybe they have better things to do than deal with some squealing psyop fail
I hope everyone here reading this, plus @kvic @Accumulating.icp @aiv are taking notice of this individual is just allowed.