MULTI/DEX — the world's most advanced DeFi

Nice, Dominic post effect, we hit all time low based on Coinmarketcap, congrats everyone, new milestone reached.

nah binance hit like $1.82 or something right? Its ok they’re all making money that’s what matters.

Please help , I make a deposit ICP to multidex and dit not show up :smiling_face_with_tear:

Its for testing only, dont send your money there. If they reset pid with every so called phrase, your ICP is gone, if they keep it same and real money trades start, you might be able to transfer those out.

Yo @ZackDS , when will the season 2 rewards be announced and when will the season 1 leaderboard stop being provisional?

any timeline on that?

After MultiDex, it seems new hype topic is quantum safe blockchains. Dominic did throw hands up and told We are NOT going to discuss it right now as Labs have not reported cracking blockchains. He did reply to Near Protocol what pushes His followers to look what Near is doing and how well its token does.

Narratives alone does not bring eyes, chart upside or adoption. Narratives are used when its time to offload tokens after token is pumped up. Near is backed by Binance, thats why its mcap is more stable, on ICP Dominic told He does not do anything to keep price up. This is the reason why ICP token does not do well, noone pumps price up to show that token can be valuable. As there is no light that shows adoption that actually burns tokens, we keep dropping.

Without token being valuable, no one cares about ICP tech. No matter what narratives Dom goes for, if no action on token price, it just dont work. On other blockchains it will work as they actually move price up.

Interesting thing is that Dominic was thinking ICP tech to be very valuable, token went down and basically worthless, than He went and made private companies. But noone still cared about His overpriced billing and tech, now He trying to come back to token as its the only thing that makes money. And still blames others because those people dont pump His tokens up so He can dump. Nono, this is not how crypto works.

Only way to save ICP token is if we get huge backer, similar like Near has Binance. Or we make building, owning very cheap, get millions of canisters that has usage + monthly network fee. There is no way to support token value or even grow it with Dominic for profit companies.

Idk, I’m thoroughly enjoying Caffeine AI. Literally an enjoyable, frustrating, rewarding and inspirational tool. That alone has made me wholely invested, still buying on a monthly basis. Still super cheap

You are right, but problem is that WE dont own what we built. CaffeineAI can do whatever it want with our canisters. I dont know how about you, but i actually want to own what we build, i want to see canisters cycle balances, i do not want to pay extra fees to Dominic.
Web 3 goal was ownership, but its taken from us.

Imagine this, they make CaffeineAI and force us to subscribe to keep us stuck on that platform. I want token price feed, but its so expensive (Caffeine failed to implement it cheaper). I than go to Lovable, build all i want (need), and still havent paid a single penny to them and my app fully working with token price feed. I am ok to pay for cycles, but only if i can own app, no freaking middleman who keep taking what should be going to burn tokens.

We need leadership to work for token, not for its own private company.

Is lovable as good as Caffeine? I don’t know about it

Lot better as you dont have to pay cycles, there AI has been fit for tasks lot longer (get better results), last time i checked there was lot cheaper AI too, small prompts took low amount of credits, hard tasks little more.
You allways need to test multible platforms before you pick a home for you.
Bigger cost would be fine if we could own what we build, copy it, sell replicas. But Caffeine does not offer what we need, we funded it and still get slapped in face.

Maybe it’s an upgrade for the future. There may be stuff handled by caffeine that we don’t yet know how to manage ourselves, but in the future there could be a built-in dashboard shipped with app that makes this easy.

As soon as I’ll know I’ll post it, unless ofc Dom posts first. The man is a machine coding 24/7 . Ai can barely keep up.

I hope so, we need content creators who make and sell those apps.

  1. Option with new controller.
  2. Controller Blackholed, get admin from admin panel.
  3. See cycle balance and top up automatically from admin panel.

Emotions sell, who woudnt want to own some stupid but funny app. And if there are many content creators, sellers, many apps. It will become self marketing platform. BUT this is not what Dominic wants, Caffeine has to make money back, if not, ICP will go with it.

Check out the

First demo of push notifications sent from MULTI/DEX.

https://x.com/__wi/status/2084667665000300942

The Internet Identity team is on :fire:

Dominic:
Note that it’s already possible for apps on the Internet Computer to use “outcalls” to perform inference on existing AI clouds and services, like Coreweave, or Anthropic, say. For example, while MULTI/DEX (http://multidex.ai) will switch over to the Intelligence Gateway alpha within days, currently it directly calls into Anthropic (it allows users to perform account and book analyses, and to orchestrate trades, through onsite chat, and also through MCP).

Vladim:
NEAR AI Cloud runs on 8x NVIDIA H200 GPUs per node. Each node runs inside Intel TDX Trusted Execution Environments with NVIDIA Confidential Computing enabled. Every single inference generates a cryptographic attestation - a signed proof from both Intel and NVIDIA - that anyone can independently verify against their public attestation services. NEAR AI Cloud already runs live production workloads: Brave (private browsing AI), OpenMind (robotics OS), Phala (confidential cloud infrastructure).

Me:
How did ICP fall behind, how did we left behind with GPU nodes, actually where are our GPU nodes. Definetly not on Cloud Engine nodes. At least Dominic promotes Near, free marketing to them, what can go wrong, oh wait, token value.

You just need to focus on :

creating a service like Caffeine (http://caffeine.ai), which builds apps on the Internet Computer using AI, is out-of-the-question on any other network, because it’s not actually possible to build apps onchain, only to give them associated tokens. Very soon, cloud engines (http://opencloud.ai) will take the Internet Computer into mainstream tech territory — based on pure tech utility, without speculative incentives and token narratives being involved.

and

The Internet Computer ecosystem will soon see something called the Intelligence Gateway, which is roughly similar in concept to OpenRouter, but provides an API that allows onchain code to conduct inference using multiple models and pay with cycles (what’s called gas on other networks).

main point on topic is

MULTI/DEX (http://multidex.ai) will switch over to the Intelligence Gateway alpha within days

:rocket:

Nothing more to add, AND first make MultiDex user friendly, only than add more features. Imagine AI in MD dont even know how to make short position, it just fails.

Quick Season II follow-up to my earlier ChatGPT Pro + ICP MCP test.

After manually funding the MULTI/DEX account with the $100,000 play balance, ChatGPT via ICP MCP can read the important account state: balance, leaderboard row, pools, positions, and closed orders.

Where I’m still blocked is the safe pre-action path. External ChatGPT MCP reads to methods such as owner-specific orders, quoteSwap, and previewOpenPosition are returning INVALID_ARGUMENT through the safe query path I’m using. Because my rule set requires a successful quote/preview before any trade, the agent correctly refuses to trade even when market signals are valid.

This may not mean assisted trading is disabled. Dominic mentioned that MULTI/DEX supports account/book analysis and trade orchestration through onsite chat and MCP, so maybe I’m hitting a connector limitation, an OQL/query limitation, or a difference between onsite chat and external ChatGPT MCP access.

Concrete questions:

  1. Is external ChatGPT MCP expected to support safe pre-trade reads like quoteSwap, previewOpenPosition, getMyOrders, and whyAmIRefused today?

  2. If yes, should those be callable as query-style reads, or does the connector need to use a signed update-style read for this OQL canister?

  3. Is manual UI funding currently required before MCP-assisted trading, or should MCP be able to complete the normal play-funding flow?

  4. Can Season II metadata, reward rules, end time, borrow caps, and preview failure reasons be exposed as first-class read-only data for agents?

Overall, the integration is promising. The account discovery and read-only monitoring already work well enough to show the shape of AI-controllable DeFi. The missing piece is a clearly documented safe action path so agents can preview, explain, and then act under deterministic user-approved rules.

Yo @ZackDS , can i report suspected activity in multi/dex ?

Market manipulation

Suspect: Swift-Tiger-18

Suspected method: Wash trading via ping ponging/ranging . with multiple accounts most likely

So far very visible on BTC-ICPUSD and SOL-ICPUSD

Check the 15minute or 5 minute chart to see it clearly