Known Neuron Proposal: D-QUORUM

Hey @Lorimer would you please confirm that I understand the Followee configuration of the D-QUORUM neuron correctly?

Topic Followee 1 Followee 2 Followee 3
0 - UNSPECIFIED DFINITY
1 - NEURON MANAGEMENT 15 Founders
2 - EXCHANGE RATE DFINITY
3 - NETWORK ECONOMICS DFINITY
4 - GOVERNANCE DFINITY
5 - NODE ADMIN DFINITY CodeGov Aviate Labs
6 - PARTICIPANT MANAGEMENT DFINITY CodeGov Aviate Labs
7 - SUBNET MANAGEMENT DFINITY CodeGov Lorimer
8 - NETWORK CANISTER MANAGEMENT DFINITY
9 - KYC DFINITY
10 - NODE PROVIDER REWARDS DFINITY
11 - depricated DFINITY
12 - IC OS VERSION DEPLOYMENT DFINITY
13 - IC OS VERSION ELECTION DFINITY CodeGov Zenith Code
14 - SNS AND COMMUNITY FUND DFINITY
15 - API BOUNDARY NODE MANAGEMENT DFINITY
16 - SUBNET RENTAL DFINITY
17 - PROTOCOL CANISTER MANAGEMENT DFINITY CodeGov WaterNeuron
18 - SERVICE NERVOUS SYSTEM MANAGEMENT DFINITY

I understood the intent of D-QUORUM to be that you want to advance decentralization of the NNS. How is that accomplished if you follow DFINITY exclusively on the Governance and the SNS & Neuron’s Fund proposal topics instead of following the founding members of the D-QUORUM neuron?

Also, if there are people and organizations that you intentionally follow on technical topics such as IC-OS Version Election, Protocol Canister Management, Subnet Management, Node Admin, and Participant Management because they were selected and funded by the rules created by DFINITY to receive the Grants for Voting Neurons, then why would you also include DFINITY as a Followee for those same topics. That seems counter to the decentralization goals of the grant program.

This isn’t a question about whether or not DFINITY is a credible or reliable Followee option for these topics. They are certainly a good choice. I’m asking why you think it’s a good idea to include DFINITY in your Followees when the whole point of the grant program and your decision to start a new known neuron is to advance decentralization. The D-QUORUM name that was selected by the founding members is supposed to be a cute abbreviation for decentralized quorum, but given that DFINITY is the primary followee for every topic it almost seems like D-QUORUM actually stands for DFINITY quorum. It doesn’t really make sense to me that we need another neuron that is essentially DFINITY that is packaged in another know neuron name. It would be nice to hear form some of the founding members of D-QUORUM why you think the current neuron configuration helps advance decentralization.

That was the oath of office that all founding members of D-QUORUM committed to in order to be allowed to join the D-QUORUM neuron. This is focused on the preferences indicated by the NNS. In what way has the NNS indicated a preference for DFINITY to be the followee for each of the proposal topics?

It’s easy to point to the Grants for Voting Neurons to understand what is intended by “preferences indicated by the NNS” for the other Followees you have selected, but DFINITY was not a nominee for those grants. As far as I know, there has never been any kind of NNS proposal that designates DFINITY as a preferred choice for any specific topic. It’s kind of silly to even think of it in those terms since DFINITY invented the NNS and set themselves as the default Followee for All Topics at genesis (which was a necessary decision). In fact, all momentum and all evidence I have observed from folks at DFINITY is that they want decentralization to occur and they want other people and organizations to become credible contributors to the NNS. The oath taken by founding members of D-QUORUM doesn’t seem to be a commitment to following DFINITY, so why do you want to follow DFINITY so heavily?

@krzysztofzelazko @tiago89 @sat @marc0olo @dostro @Zane @Roman @radudaniel @ilbert and the other D-QUORUM founding members (who I can’t tag due to forum tag limits), I would be very interested in knowing why you think it is important to set DFINITY as a Followee to all of these proposal topics. Is that really what you think it best for the D-QUORUM neuron? Shouldn’t you at least set only the D-QUORUM founding members as the Followees for the Governance and SNS & Neuron’s Fund topics and/or remove DFINITY from the technical topics where there are other Followees that are receiving grants? I recognize that it doesn’t matter what I think is best for D-QUORUM, but I haven’t heard anything publicly from any founding member other than Alex. I’d be interested in learning what you think.

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