Thanks @SvenF, this sounds good. I’ve voted to reject in this case (given that there’s no reference to this evidence). I’m very happy that this will be included in future proposals though.
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Voted to adopt proposal 134404.
This proposal replaces node 5resh which appears in the dashboard as “Status: Active”, for the purpose of making it available to other subnets in order to improve overall network topology. As shown in the proposal, decentralisation parameters are unchanged and remain within the requirements of the target topology.
Proposal 134404
Vote: REJECT
I have raised question regarding this kind of proposals previously and adopted them firstly expecting better explanation in the future as can be seen in this two reviews, 134191 and 134192. @SvenF
I’ve vote to adopt proposal 134404. The decentralisation coefficients were unchanged by the proposal. As can be observed using the IC-API, the 5p6xp node operator has 4 nodes (as stated in the proposal summary). Now that this proposal has executed, one of those nodes is unassigned (5resh).
Note that the IC-API is not open source. Since learning this, I’m in the process of switching over verifiable sources of this sort of information (rejecting because I’ve not had time to do this yet would be too harsh - even for me 
).
A new proposal with id 134554 has been submitted, please take a look.
Click here to open proposal details
Replace nodes in subnet o3ow2
Motivation:
The following nodes in subnet o3ow2 have been cordoned and need to be removed from the subnet:
- gn3jh: offboarding MR1 DC after 48 months; DFINITY Gen-1 servers available for sale through silent auction
- kby7l: offboarding AN1 DC after 48 months; Proposal: Update Interim Gen-1 Node Provider Remuneration After 48 months - #44 by Paul_DC and Proposal: Update Interim Gen-1 Node Provider Remuneration After 48 months - #46 by katiep
Decentralization Nakamoto coefficient changes for subnet o3ow2-2ipam-6fcjo-3j5vt-fzbge-2g7my-5fz2m-p4o2t-dwlc4-gt2q7-5ae:
node_provider: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
data_center: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
data_center_owner: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
area: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
country: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
Mean Nakamoto comparison: 5.00 → 5.00 (+0%)
Overall replacement impact: equal decentralization across all features
Details
Nodes removed:
gn3jh-ppjoz-hdh3g-3dckg-zdgk2-qspnh-5i7p6-dfcq3-ke6vc-n5l7d-sqe[health: healthy]kby7l-tpmyp-ntea5-g4kn2-gkwrc-fbjbo-6pjgz-gaoz7-owtct-welil-pae[health: healthy]
Nodes added:
5jbfj-wygyf-jzcjw-s6ali-nlazr-nbejd-sfw6h-v44fg-hh34c-khde2-lqe[health: healthy]incp3-oydir-onuos-fifuz-6n4c4-4aawc-gxmxz-v4juj-xzupz-h22aj-aae[health: healthy]
node_provider data_center data_center_owner area country
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4dibr-2alzr-h6kva-bvwn2-yqgsl-o577t-od46o-v275p-a2zov-tcw4f-eae 1 an1 1 -> 0 Africa Data Centres 1 Flanders 1 -> 0 AU 1
4fedi-eu6ue-nd7ts-vnof5-hzg66-hgzl7-liy5n-3otyp-h7ipw-owycg-uae 1 ch2 1 Cloud9 1 Gauteng 1 BE 1 -> 0
6nbcy-kprg6-ax3db-kh3cz-7jllk-oceyh-jznhs-riguq-fvk6z-6tsds-rqe 0 -> 1 hk3 1 Cyxtera 1 HongKong 1 CA 1
6r5lw-l7db7-uwixn-iw5en-yy55y-ilbtq-e6gcv-g22r2-j3g6q-y37jk-jqe 1 jb2 1 Datacenter United 1 -> 0 Illinois 1 CH 1
7at4h-nhtvt-a4s55-jigss-wr2ha-ysxkn-e6w7x-7ggnm-qd3d5-ry66r-cae 1 mb1 1 Digital Realty 1 Maribor 1 FR 1 -> 0
bvcsg-3od6r-jnydw-eysln-aql7w-td5zn-ay5m6-sibd2-jzojt-anwag-mqe 1 mn2 1 Equinix 1 Melbourne 1 GE 1
ihbuj-erwnc-tkjux-tqtnv-zkoar-uniy2-sk2go-xfpkc-znbb4-seukm-wqe 1 mr1 1 -> 0 Green.ch 1 Navi Mumbai 1 HK 1
nmdd6-rouxw-55leh-wcbkn-kejit-njvje-p4s6e-v64d3-nlbjb-vipul-mae 1 nm1 1 Megazone Cloud 1 Ontario 1 IN 1
rbn2y-6vfsb-gv35j-4cyvy-pzbdu-e5aum-jzjg6-5b4n5-vuguf-ycubq-zae 1 -> 0 sg1 0 -> 1 NEXTDC 1 Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur 1 -> 0 JP 1
sixix-2nyqd-t2k2v-vlsyz-dssko-ls4hl-hyij4-y7mdp-ja6cj-nsmpf-yae 1 sh1 0 -> 1 Posita.si 1 Seoul 1 KR 1
spp3m-vawt7-3gyh6-pjz5d-6zidf-up3qb-yte62-otexv-vfpqg-n6awf-lqe 1 sl1 1 Rivram 1 Singapore 0 -> 1 SE 0 -> 1
ulyfm-vkxtj-o42dg-e4nam-l4tzf-37wci-ggntw-4ma7y-d267g-ywxi6-iae 1 tb1 1 Telin 0 -> 1 Stockholm 0 -> 1 SG 0 -> 1
vegae-c4chr-aetfj-7gzuh-c23sx-u2paz-vmvbn-bcage-pu7lu-mptnn-eqe 1 to2 1 Tierpoint 1 Tbilisi 1 SI 1
wdjjk-blh44-lxm74-ojj43-rvgf4-j5rie-nm6xs-xvnuv-j3ptn-25t4v-6ae 1 ty1 1 hkcolo 1 Tokyo 1 US 1
zh6 1 Zurich 1 ZA 1
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Proposal 134554
TLDR: I’ll adopt. The proposal links directly to what appears to be discussion with the NP about the proposal. Decentralisation stats look acceptable (number of nodes in the same continent increases, but this isn’t a formal part of the IC Target Topology).
Decentralisation Stats
Subnet node distance stats (distance between any 2 nodes in the subnet) →
| Smallest Distance | Average Distance | Largest Distance | |
|---|---|---|---|
| EXISTING | 300.075 km | 8092.598 km | 16759.085 km |
| PROPOSED | 504.693 km (+68.2%) | 8339.341 km (+3%) | 16605.64 km (-0.9%) |
This proposal slightly increases decentralisation, considered purely in terms of geographic distance (and therefore there’s a slight theoretical increase in localised disaster resilience). 
Subnet characteristic counts →
| Continents | Countries | Data Centers | Owners | Node Providers | Node Operator | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| EXISTING | 5 | 13 | 13 | 13 | 13 | 13 |
| PROPOSED | 5 | 13 | 13 | 13 | 13 | 13 |
Largest number of nodes with the same characteristic (e.g. continent, country, data center, etc.) →
| Continent | Country | Data Center | Owner | Node Provider | Node Operator | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| EXISTING | 5 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
| PROPOSED | 6 (+20%) | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
See here for acceptable limits → Motion 132136
The above subnet information is illustrated below, followed by a node reference table:
Map Description
- Red marker represents a removed node (transparent center for overlap visibility)
- Green marker represents an added node
- Blue marker represents an unchanged node
- Highlighted patches represent the country the above nodes sit within (red if the country is removed, green if added, otherwise grey)
- Light grey markers with yellow borders are examples of unassigned nodes that would be viable candidates for joining the subnet according to formal decentralisation coefficients (so this proposal can be viewed in the context of alternative solutions that are not being used)
Node Changes
| Action | Node | Status | Continent | Country | Data Center | Owner | Node Provider | Node Operator | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Remove |  |
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| Remove | |
||||||||
| Add | incp3 | UNASSIGNED | |
Asia | Singapore | Singapore (sg1) | Telin | OneSixtyTwo Digital Capital | d4bin |
| Add | 5jbfj | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Sweden | Stockholm 1 (sh1) | Digital Realty | DFINITY Stiftung | lgp6d |
Other Nodes
| Node | Status | Continent | Country | Data Center | Owner | Node Provider | Node Operator | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 23jbm | UP | |
Oceania | Australia | Melbourne 2 (mn2) | NEXTDC | Icaria Systems Pty Ltd | l5lhp |
| d4ndk | UP | |
Americas | Canada | Toronto 2 (to2) | Cyxtera | Blockchain Development Labs | 4lp6i |
| h3g2z | UP | |
Europe | Switzerland | Zurich 6 (zh6) | Green.ch | Sygnum Bank | ciprs |
| za7cm | UP | |
Asia | China | HongKong 3 (hk3) | hkcolo | Power Meta Corporation | 4lbqo |
| l7nbu | UP | |
Asia | Georgia | Tbilisi 1 (tb1) | Cloud9 | George Bassadone | yhfy4 |
| h3gd6 | UP | |
Asia | India | Navi Mumbai 1 (nm1) | Rivram | Rivram Inc | mpmyf |
| rv6cf | UP | |
Asia | Japan | Tokyo (ty1) | Equinix | Starbase | cqjev |
| sqw45 | UP | |
Asia | Korea (the Republic of) | Seoul 1 (sl1) | Megazone Cloud | Neptune Partners | ukji3 |
| nlghu | UP | |
Europe | Slovenia | Maribor (mb1) | Posita.si | Fractal Labs AG | 3xiew |
| pgim3 | UP | |
Americas | United States of America (the) | Chicago 2 (ch2) | Tierpoint | Rivonia Holdings LLC | vkwql |
| hdkxy | UP | |
Africa | South Africa | Gauteng 2 (jb2) | Africa Data Centres | Honeycomb Capital (Pty) Ltd | 3bohy |
*This comment references the latest comment in the Subnet Management - General Discussion thread only to generate an automated cross-link from the general thread (to improve topic navigation).
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Note that this analysis involved data provided by the IC-API, which is not open source. I’m in the process of switching over to more verifiable sources of this sort of information for future proposal reviews. See here for related discussion.
Voted to adopt proposal #134554.
The proposal replaces two cordoned healthy Active status node gn3jh from the MR1 Data Center in France, and cordoned healthy Active status node kby7l from the AN1 Data Center in Antwerp, with unassigned healthy Awaiting status node 5jbfj from Sweden and with unassigned healthy Awaiting status node incp3 from Singapore, without any change to the decentralization of the subnet.
The motivation makes sense and the provided Forum link included in the summary provides further info, also it can be checked here.
A new proposal with id 134572 has been submitted, please take a look.
Click here to open proposal details
Replace a node in subnet o3ow2
Motivation:
The following nodes in subnet o3ow2 have been cordoned and need to be removed from the subnet:
- pgim3: offboarding CH2 DC after 48 months; Proposal: Update Interim Gen-1 Node Provider Remuneration After 48 months - #40 by dfisher
Decentralization Nakamoto coefficient changes for subnet o3ow2-2ipam-6fcjo-3j5vt-fzbge-2g7my-5fz2m-p4o2t-dwlc4-gt2q7-5ae:
node_provider: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
data_center: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
data_center_owner: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
area: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
country: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
Mean Nakamoto comparison: 5.00 → 5.00 (+0%)
Overall replacement impact: equal decentralization across all features
Details
Nodes removed:
pgim3-5bk4s-y4auc-ocnuj-gdsqb-iv2yk-qi4t7-75bpp-kbz2r-bdtuq-4qe[health: healthy]
Nodes added:
agtd6-f2qxq-ciadf-bterj-vpcos-7fapt-co3cv-ypvhs-zy6mk-ijrto-uae[health: healthy]
node_provider data_center data_center_owner area country
------------- ----------- ----------------- ---- -------
4dibr-2alzr-h6kva-bvwn2-yqgsl-o577t-od46o-v275p-a2zov-tcw4f-eae 1 ch2 1 -> 0 Africa Data Centres 1 Arizona 0 -> 1 AU 1
4fedi-eu6ue-nd7ts-vnof5-hzg66-hgzl7-liy5n-3otyp-h7ipw-owycg-uae 1 hk3 1 Cloud9 1 Gauteng 1 CA 1
6nbcy-kprg6-ax3db-kh3cz-7jllk-oceyh-jznhs-riguq-fvk6z-6tsds-rqe 1 jb2 1 CyrusOne 0 -> 1 HongKong 1 CH 1
6r5lw-l7db7-uwixn-iw5en-yy55y-ilbtq-e6gcv-g22r2-j3g6q-y37jk-jqe 1 mb1 1 Cyxtera 1 Illinois 1 -> 0 GE 1
7at4h-nhtvt-a4s55-jigss-wr2ha-ysxkn-e6w7x-7ggnm-qd3d5-ry66r-cae 1 mn2 1 Digital Realty 1 Maribor 1 HK 1
bvcsg-3od6r-jnydw-eysln-aql7w-td5zn-ay5m6-sibd2-jzojt-anwag-mqe 1 nm1 1 Equinix 1 Melbourne 1 IN 1
ihbuj-erwnc-tkjux-tqtnv-zkoar-uniy2-sk2go-xfpkc-znbb4-seukm-wqe 1 ph1 0 -> 1 Green.ch 1 Navi Mumbai 1 JP 1
izmhk-lpjum-uo4oy-lviba-yctpc-arg4b-2ywim-vgoiu-gqaj2-gskmw-2qe 0 -> 1 sg1 1 Megazone Cloud 1 Ontario 1 KR 1
nmdd6-rouxw-55leh-wcbkn-kejit-njvje-p4s6e-v64d3-nlbjb-vipul-mae 1 sh1 1 NEXTDC 1 Seoul 1 SE 1
sixix-2nyqd-t2k2v-vlsyz-dssko-ls4hl-hyij4-y7mdp-ja6cj-nsmpf-yae 1 sl1 1 Posita.si 1 Singapore 1 SG 1
spp3m-vawt7-3gyh6-pjz5d-6zidf-up3qb-yte62-otexv-vfpqg-n6awf-lqe 1 -> 0 tb1 1 Rivram 1 Stockholm 1 SI 1
ulyfm-vkxtj-o42dg-e4nam-l4tzf-37wci-ggntw-4ma7y-d267g-ywxi6-iae 1 to2 1 Telin 1 Tbilisi 1 US 1
vegae-c4chr-aetfj-7gzuh-c23sx-u2paz-vmvbn-bcage-pu7lu-mptnn-eqe 1 ty1 1 Tierpoint 1 -> 0 Tokyo 1 ZA 1
wdjjk-blh44-lxm74-ojj43-rvgf4-j5rie-nm6xs-xvnuv-j3ptn-25t4v-6ae 1 zh6 1 hkcolo 1 Zurich 1
Voted to adopt proposal 134554.
This proposal replaces 2 nodes, due to offboarding MR1 and AN1 data centres. Decentralisation parameters are unchanged and remain within the requirements of the target topology. Data centre details are consistent with the links provided in the proposal, although the linked post for data centre MR1 should ideally include further detail to specify exactly which data centres are being affected.
Proposal 134554
Vote: ADOPT
Replaces cordoned nodes gn3jh and kby7l with nodes 5jbfj and incp3 on subnet o3ow2.
The reason for this proposal is to offboard MR1 and AN1 DCs consistent with forum posts made on the forum thread used for posts regarding the renovation/sell of Gen-1 node machines by NPs.
Both the NP and DC stated in the forum post match the ones from the node being removed in the proposal.
Voted to reject proposal 134572 as this is part of a large batch of non-critical proposals timed such that the voting period clashes with national holidays, thereby allowing insufficient time for an appropriately detailed review to take place.
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Rejected proposal 134572. There’s no time to review this and the 18 other proposals in the same batch properly over Xmas eve, Xmas and Boxing Day. This is a non-critical proposal.
More information and discussion on this thread.
Proposal 134572
Vote: ADOPT
Replaces cordoned node pgim3 with node agtd6 on subnet o3ow2.
The reason for this proposal is to offboard CH2 DC consistent with forum posts made on the forum thread used for posts regarding the renovation/sell of Gen-1 node machines by NPs.
Both the NP and DC stated in the forum post match the ones from the node being removed in the proposal.
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Voted to adopt proposal #134572.
The proposal replaces cordoned healthy Active status node pgim3 from the CH2 Data Center in Illinois, with unassigned healthy Awaiting status node agtd6 from Arizona, without any change to the decentralization of the subnet.
The motivation makes sense and the provided Forum link included in the summary provides further info, also it can be checked here.
There’s an open