# Lost cycles while minting a new cansiter

**URL:** <https://forum.dfinity.org/t/lost-cycles-while-minting-a-new-cansiter/34919>\
**Category:** Language Support\
**Created:** [September 9, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://forum.dfinity.org/t/lost-cycles-while-minting-a-new-cansiter/34919 "2024-09-09T20:35:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![skilesare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.dfinity.org/skilesare/32/5609_2.png) [@skilesare](https://forum.dfinity.org/u/skilesare)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://forum.dfinity.org/t/lost-cycles-while-minting-a-new-cansiter/34919/1 "2024-09-09T20:35:20Z")

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Looks like there was some kind of ingress issue and I lost 6T Cycles. Any way to get them back?

```auto
% dfx cycles --network ic convert --amount 1.75

Transfer sent at block height 13955372
Using transfer at block height 13955372
Account was topped up with 9_949_975_000_000 cycles! New balance is 9_949_875_000_000 cycles.

% dfx deploy --network ic --with-cycles 6_000_000_000_000 --subnet bkfrj-6k62g-dycql-7h53p-atvkj-zg4to-gaogh-netha-ptybj-ntsgw-rqe backend

Deploying: backend
Creating canisters...
Creating canister backend...
created-at-time for canister backend is 1725912966607485000.
Error: Failed while trying to deploy canisters.
Caused by: Failed while trying to register all canisters.
Caused by: Failed to create canister 'backend'.
Caused by: Failed to create canister via cycles ledger.
Caused by: The replica returned an HTTP Error: Http Error: status 400 Bad Request, content type "text/plain; charset=utf-8", content: Specified ingress_expiry not within expected range: Minimum allowed expiry: 2024-09-09 20:14:14.903845551 UTC, Maximum allowed expiry: 2024-09-09 20:19:44.903845551 UTC, Provided expiry: 2024-09-09 20:20:00 UTC
% dfx deploy --network ic --with-cycles 6_000_000_000_000 --subnet bkfrj-6k62g-dycql-7h53p-atvkj-zg4to-gaogh-netha-ptybj-ntsgw-rqe backend

Deploying: backend
Creating canisters...
Creating canister backend...
created-at-time for canister backend is 1725912988281940000.
Error: Failed while trying to deploy canisters.
Caused by: Failed while trying to register all canisters.
Caused by: Failed to create canister 'backend'.
Caused by: Failed to create canister via cycles ledger.
Caused by: Insufficient funds. Current balance: 3949775000000

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**Author:** ![Vivienne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.dfinity.org/vivienne/32/29170_2.png) [@Vivienne](https://forum.dfinity.org/u/Vivienne)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 8:00am UTC](https://forum.dfinity.org/t/lost-cycles-while-minting-a-new-cansiter/34919/2 "2024-09-10T08:00:16Z")

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If you retry soon enough with `--created-at-time 1725912966607485000` you should run into deduplication and receive the canister’s ID from the cycles ledger’s cache