# Is Plug Mobile working?
**URL:** https://forum.dfinity.org/t/is-plug-mobile-working/18334
**Category:** Developers
**Created:** [February 2, 2023, 12:46pm UTC](https://forum.dfinity.org/t/is-plug-mobile-working/18334 "2023-02-02T12:46:40Z")
**Posts on this page:** 13
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### Author:  [@Mathias](https://forum.dfinity.org/u/Mathias)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2023, 12:46pm UTC](https://forum.dfinity.org/t/is-plug-mobile-working/18334/1 "2023-02-02T12:46:40Z")
I use the [plug-connect button](https://github.com/Psychedelic/plug-connect#readme). I just tried if it works on iOS but I just get directed to the plug app and then it loads forever without doing anything.
Is it supposed to work? Should I stop using it to begin with as the team seems to have left the ecosystem?
Thanks
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### Author:  [@blabagastered](https://forum.dfinity.org/u/blabagastered)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2023, 4:26pm UTC](https://forum.dfinity.org/t/is-plug-mobile-working/18334/2 "2023-02-02T16:26:02Z")
Unless you need it for DIP20 tokens specifically, it may be best to use one of the others. Bitfinity Wallet supports ICRC1s and NFID supports EXT I think and I’m told intends to add ICRC1 soon.
Internet Identity on its own can also work.
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### Author:  [@Mathias](https://forum.dfinity.org/u/Mathias)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2023, 11:04am UTC](https://forum.dfinity.org/t/is-plug-mobile-working/18334/3 "2023-02-03T11:04:42Z")
thank you! Do you know which wallets use the same principals across all dapps? For my dapp, it would be nice if at least one payment method would not require the users to first top-up their app-specific wallet. Plug was nice for that.
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### Author:  [@blabagastered](https://forum.dfinity.org/u/blabagastered)
#### Post date: [February 3, 2023, 12:26pm UTC](https://forum.dfinity.org/t/is-plug-mobile-working/18334/4 "2023-02-03T12:26:17Z")
Not sure what defaults are used but as a general rule, the account with the “null” subaccount (not a sub-type of account, better though of as “accountindex”), might make sense:
```auto
let user_owned_account : Account = {
owner : Principal = user_principal;
subaccount : ?Blob = null;
};
```
People building wallets or on the Ledger and Tokenization Working Group may know.
I have a feeling I have a big misunderstanding about what the principal is, so the null subaccount idea above may not make sense.
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### Author:  [@Maxfinity](https://forum.dfinity.org/u/Maxfinity)
#### Post date: [February 4, 2023, 3:52am UTC](https://forum.dfinity.org/t/is-plug-mobile-working/18334/5 "2023-02-04T03:52:39Z")
Try Bitfinity wallet.
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### Author:  [@Mathias](https://forum.dfinity.org/u/Mathias)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2023, 10:02am UTC](https://forum.dfinity.org/t/is-plug-mobile-working/18334/6 "2023-02-06T10:02:37Z")
Thank you, I rather meant though which wallets use the same principals. I think plug uses the same for all apps. This means once the user has a balance on the default account for that principal, they can make a payment with one click (confirming the transfer after having already signed in). This would be nice for my use case and to get initial traction. The alternative is that they have to first top-up their app-specific principal which is how II and many other auth methods seem to work.
I think what you say makes sense (I forgot if it’s just null for the default account or how that works but it sounds right to me).
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### Author:  [@blabagastered](https://forum.dfinity.org/u/blabagastered)
#### Post date: [February 6, 2023, 10:54am UTC](https://forum.dfinity.org/t/is-plug-mobile-working/18334/7 "2023-02-06T10:54:37Z")
Yes, something like that is very much needed. An identifier / address with automatic compatibility for all apps by default (and of course retaining an ability to create many of those independent identifiers if the user so wishes).
I ended up creating my own in-app wallet yesterday after realising there is no third party GUI wallet capable of sending ICRCs to accounts of non-null subaccount, which are effectively needed (it can be done differently but I’d also call it wrongly) when administering user funds in your app in segregated accounts (most of defi).
I think we’re going to have to find a way to simplify the environment in practice, as well as have basic things like wallets with full functionality that map to the complete capabilities of the IC, for things to develop.
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### Author:  [@Mathias](https://forum.dfinity.org/u/Mathias)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2023, 12:14pm UTC](https://forum.dfinity.org/t/is-plug-mobile-working/18334/8 "2023-02-11T12:14:50Z")
Sorry, I forgot to answer.
That sounds really cool! Yeah, I agree there is a lot of stuff that is missing or could be improved or be more clear. In case you have a link to what you’re building (or social media), let me know, I’m always curious to follow and see new projects.
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### Author:  [@blabagastered](https://forum.dfinity.org/u/blabagastered)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2023, 12:43pm UTC](https://forum.dfinity.org/t/is-plug-mobile-working/18334/9 "2023-02-11T12:43:58Z")
No worries at all.
The ecosystem, including some of its basic pieces is still very much under construction, but in a sense the whole world is.
I’ve been working on this:
> [@Backed USD: A bitcoin-backed stablecoin on the IC—a prototype](https://forum.dfinity.org/t/backed-usd-a-bitcoin-backed-stablecoin-on-the-ic-a-prototype/18430):
>
> Backed USD is a fully bitcoin-backed stablecoin on the IC. A prototype is live on bitcoin testnet (desktop-only): [https://hvcgd-diaaa-aaaag-qbw4a-cai.ic0.app/](https://hvcgd-diaaa-aaaag-qbw4a-cai.ic0.app/) It accepts bitcoin as collateral, allows emitting or borrowing USDK against it, an ICRC stablecoin, and the protocol appropriates your collateral if its value falls below your outstanding loan. The principle is simple: each USDK is backed at least 1 to 1 with a dollar worth of bitcoin at all times. It is not a demo, but rather more of …
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### Author:  [@Mathias](https://forum.dfinity.org/u/Mathias)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2023, 11:51am UTC](https://forum.dfinity.org/t/is-plug-mobile-working/18334/10 "2023-02-16T11:51:09Z")
That sounds amazing! That’s definitely something that is needed 🙂
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### Author:  [@blabagastered](https://forum.dfinity.org/u/blabagastered)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2023, 12:02pm UTC](https://forum.dfinity.org/t/is-plug-mobile-working/18334/11 "2023-02-16T12:02:39Z")
Yes, I actually came to the IC to do something else but changed it to a stablecoin when I realised we don’t have one and I need it to do the other thing.
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### Author:  [@abc](https://forum.dfinity.org/u/abc)
#### Post date: [February 26, 2023, 2:25pm UTC](https://forum.dfinity.org/t/is-plug-mobile-working/18334/12 "2023-02-26T14:25:28Z")
> [@Mathias](#):
>
> Do you know which wallets use the same principals across all dapps?
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### Author:  [@neeboo](https://forum.dfinity.org/u/neeboo)
#### Post date: [February 26, 2023, 6:32pm UTC](https://forum.dfinity.org/t/is-plug-mobile-working/18334/13 "2023-02-26T18:32:45Z")
Thanks for mentioning us.
The canister wallet is still in early beta, and we are tying very hard to roll it out.