This is pretty exciting. I’m looking forward to latency optimized applications for the US and it’s awesome to see subnets that will be dedicated to Caffeine based apps already showing up.
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Proposals 137229, 137231, 137232, 137233, 137234 & 137235 | Tim - CodeGov
Vote: Adopt
This set of proposals establishes 6 new subnets, including a US-only subnet (proposal 137235).
Using the ic-admin tool I verified that the settings in the payload of each proposal match those typically set for other application subnets, with the exception that max_number_of_canisters:0 is set for each of the new subnets, meaning that canisters cannot yet be added until this setting is changed.
Using the decentralization tool I tabulated the node machines that have been proposed as the initial members of the new subnets. The table can be seen by using this link. As shown, all of the current topology targets set by proposal 137147 are met, with the exception that the US-only subnet (proposal 137235) has 4 examples of a data centre owner controlling 2 nodes in the subnet. I have nonetheless voted to adopt this proposal as well given that it will not yet be adding canisters and so there will not be a security risk, and because adding the subnet will provide an opportunity to make further observations. I anticipate that the next time the DRE tool is run (Dfinity runs it regularly), its algorithm will attempt to optimise this subnet’s topology further. By my count there are only 10 US-based data centre owners so the target is impossible to meet anyway. (Likewise with Switzerland, which has only 5 data centre owners.) It may be worth adjusting the agreed topology in order to account for this.
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Proposal 137235 Review | Lorimer 
- CO.DELTA △
VOTE: NO
TLDR: This is a proposal to create the new US subnet described in IC Target Topology Proposal 137147. Unfortunately the parameters of this subnet creation proposal do not conform to the elected target topology (see ‘Decentralisation Stats’ below).
As specified, there should be no more than one node in this subnet that is owned by the same DC provider. Tierpoint, Flexential and Datasite would each own 2 nodes in this subnet if it passes. The IC Target Topology is unachievable with respect to the US subnet, as pointed out by timk11. Here’s the full list of DC owners with DCs in the US
- CyrusOne: 70 replica nodes, 0 other nodes
- Datasite: 53 replica nodes, 3 other nodes
- Digital Realty: 41 replica nodes, 1 other nodes
- Evocative: 28 replica nodes, 0 other nodes
- FiberState: 3 replica nodes, 0 other nodes
- Flexential: 69 replica nodes, 1 other nodes
- Hurricane Electric: 3 replica nodes, 0 other nodes
- InfoObjects: 4 replica nodes, 0 other nodes
- Tierpoint: 56 replica nodes, 0 other nodes
- TRG: 13 replica nodes, 1 other nodes
There are only 10 DC owners, and therefore not enough to support a 13 node subnet.
Either the IC Target Topology will need reformulating, or more DCs will need onboarding before creating the US subnet in a way that is compliant.
Decentralisation Stats
Subnet node distance stats (distance between any 2 nodes in the subnet) →
| Smallest Distance | Average Distance | Largest Distance | |
|---|---|---|---|
| PROPOSED | 8.867 km | 2206.802 km | 4401.501 km |
Subnet characteristic counts →
| Continents | Countries | Data Centers | Owners | Node Providers | Node Operator | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| PROPOSED | 1 | 1 | 13 | 9 | 13 | 13 |
Largest number of nodes with the same characteristic (e.g. continent, country, data center, etc.) →
| Continent | Country | Data Center | Owner | Node Provider | Node Operator | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| PROPOSED | 13 | 13 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1 |
See here for acceptable limits → Motion 137147
The above subnet information is illustrated below, followed by a node reference table:
Map Description
- Green marker represents an added node
- Highlighted patches represent the country the above nodes sit within (red if the country is removed, green if added, otherwise grey)
Node Changes
| Action | Node | Status | Continent | Country | Data Center | Owner | Node Provider | Node Operator | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Add | m7fhy | UNASSIGNED |  |
North America | United States of America (the) | Allentown (aw1) | Tierpoint | Bigger Capital | gv77f |
| Add | icbco | UNASSIGNED | |
North America | United States of America (the) | Atlanta 2 (at2) | Datasite | BLP22, LLC | 5syyj |
| Add | nusc3 | UNASSIGNED | |
North America | United States of America (the) | California 3 (sj3) | InfoObjects | InfoObjects | jtrpk |
| Add | s4nii | UNASSIGNED | |
North America | United States of America (the) | Chicago 2 (ch2) | Tierpoint | Arceau NP LLC | xva5m |
| Add | gbsw6 | UNASSIGNED | |
North America | United States of America (the) | Chicago 3 (ch3) | CyrusOne | 100 Count Holdings, LLC | kguzs |
| Add | flwxw | UNASSIGNED | |
North America | United States of America (the) | Dallas (dl1) | Flexential | 87m Neuron, LLC | mw64v |
| Add | fdunq | UNASSIGNED | |
North America | United States of America (the) | Fremont (fm1) | Hurricane Electric | NoviSystems, LLC | hoqyg |
| Add | wqqsg | UNASSIGNED | |
North America | United States of America (the) | Houston (hu1) | TRG | 43rd Big Idea Films | fthz3 |
| Add | g6qhu | UNASSIGNED | |
North America | United States of America (the) | Miami (mm1) | Digital Realty | NODAO | kn6jm |
| Add | svvvx | UNASSIGNED | |
North America | United States of America (the) | Orlando (or1) | Datasite | Giant Leaf, LLC | 2rqo7 |
| Add | hizzw | UNASSIGNED | |
North America | United States of America (the) | Phoenix (ph1) | CyrusOne | MI Servers | 5bnm2 |
| Add | m23z7 | UNASSIGNED | |
North America | United States of America (the) | Portland (pl1) | Flexential | Uvaca Labs LLC | dvfhx |
| Add | ou6hm | UNASSIGNED | |
North America | United States of America (the) | Washington 1 (se1) | Evocative | DFINITY Stiftung | xph6u |
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Proposal 137234 Review | Lorimer - CO.DELTA △
VOTE: NO
TLDR: The proposed subnet topology contains 2 nodes from the rpfvr+glrjs+spp3m cluster (more than 1 breaks the ‘independent party’ imperative that each subnet needs to adhere to). The nodes involved are:
Decentralisation Stats
Subnet node distance stats (distance between any 2 nodes in the subnet) →
| Smallest Distance | Average Distance | Largest Distance | |
|---|---|---|---|
| PROPOSED | 0 km | 7377.761 km | 16465.583 km |
Subnet characteristic counts →
| Continents | Countries | Data Centers | Owners | Node Providers | Node Operator | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| PROPOSED | 4 | 10 | 13 | 13 | 13 | 13 |
Largest number of nodes with the same characteristic (e.g. continent, country, data center, etc.) →
| Continent | Country | Data Center | Owner | Node Provider | Node Operator | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| PROPOSED | 6 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
See here for acceptable limits → Motion 137147
The above subnet information is illustrated below, followed by a node reference table:
Map Description
- Green marker represents an added node
- Highlighted patches represent the country the above nodes sit within (red if the country is removed, green if added, otherwise grey)
Node Changes
| Action | Node | Status | Continent | Country | Data Center | Owner | Node Provider | Node Operator | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Add | uajv3 | UNASSIGNED | |
Oceania | Australia | Queensland 1 (sc1) | NEXTDC | ANYPOINT PTY LTD | 6jel7 |
| Add | z2tgr | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Belgium | Antwerp (an1) | Datacenter United | NODAO | k4aor |
| Add | clfor | UNASSIGNED | |
North America | Canada | Vancouver (bc1) | Cyxtera | Blockchain Development Labs | feb2q |
| Add | ctqez | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Switzerland | Zurich 4 (zh4) | Nine.Ch | Tomahawk.vc | paxme |
| Add | 6ucn7 | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Switzerland | Zurich 5 (zh5) | Green.ch | Reist Telecom AG | sqxhb |
| Add | ognrk | UNASSIGNED | |
Asia | Georgia | Tbilisi 1 (tb1) | Cloud9 | George Bassadone | yhfy4 |
| Add | jux3z | UNASSIGNED | |
Asia | Hong Kong | HongKong 4 (hk4) | hkntt | Web3game | dg7of |
| Add | abg3e | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Isle of Man | Douglas 1 (im1) | Manx Telecom | Blue Ant LLC | 4isre |
| Add | ywdqr | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Isle of Man | Douglas 2 (im2) | Continent8 | Zarety LLC | ylbc3 |
| Add | f6etz | UNASSIGNED | |
Asia | Singapore | Singapore 3 (sg3) | Racks Central | Protocol16 | vicvb |
| Add | uw4qe | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Slovenia | Maribor (mb1) | Posita.si | BlockFinance | ozfkj |
| Add | xszxr | UNASSIGNED | |
North America | United States of America (the) | Sterling (st1) | CyrusOne | MI Servers | tcn4t |
| Add | csrkp | UNASSIGNED | |
North America | United States of America (the) | Washington 1 (se1) | Evocative | DFINITY Stiftung | xph6u |
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Proposal 137233 Review | Lorimer - CO.DELTA △
VOTE: YES
TLDR: Creates a new subnet that conforms to the IC Target Topology and associated business rules (such as 1 DFINITY-owned node for ease of subnet recovery).
I’ve also reviewed the initialisation config which I’ll post separately for all of the proposed subnets, at which point a link to will be provided → here
Country Discrepancies (1)
Has been questioned previously and is likely to be inaccurate info on ipinfo.io’s end. In any case, I wish BDL would do something to sort it out (they’re more or less the only NP who consistently have this problem).
| Node | Data Center | Claimed Country | According to ipinfo.io |
|---|---|---|---|
| dh4nc | Toronto 2 | Canada | United States of America (the) |
Decentralisation Stats
Subnet node distance stats (distance between any 2 nodes in the subnet) →
| Smallest Distance | Average Distance | Largest Distance | |
|---|---|---|---|
| PROPOSED | 224.22 km | 6626.101 km | 16395.058 km |
Subnet characteristic counts →
| Continents | Countries | Data Centers | Owners | Node Providers | Node Operator | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| PROPOSED | 4 | 11 | 13 | 13 | 13 | 13 |
Largest number of nodes with the same characteristic (e.g. continent, country, data center, etc.) →
| Continent | Country | Data Center | Owner | Node Provider | Node Operator | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| PROPOSED | 7 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
See here for acceptable limits → Motion 137147
The above subnet information is illustrated below, followed by a node reference table:
Map Description
- Green marker represents an added node
- Highlighted patches represent the country the above nodes sit within (red if the country is removed, green if added, otherwise grey)
- Black dotted line connects to a small black marker that shows where the IP address indicates the node is located (according to
ipinfo.io). This is only displayed if it conflicts with where IC records indicate the node is located. See Country Discrepancies section above for more info.
Node Changes
| Action | Node | Status | Continent | Country | Data Center | Owner | Node Provider | Node Operator | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Add | ofdd3 | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Belgium | Antwerp (an1) | Datacenter United | DeNoDe | z4wll |
| Add | dh4nc | UNASSIGNED | |
North America | Canada | Toronto 2 (to2) | Cyxtera | Blockchain Development Labs | 4lp6i |
| Add | 6dmez | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Switzerland | Geneva (ge1) | HighDC | Decentralized Entities Foundation | xdara |
| Add | e5xk3 | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Switzerland | Zurich 6 (zh6) | Green.ch | Sygnum Bank | ciprs |
| Add | mwrqx | UNASSIGNED | |
Asia | Hong Kong | HongKong 1 (hk1) | Unicom | Pindar Technology Limited | vzsx4 |
| Add | 4lg7u | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Isle of Man | Douglas 2 (im2) | Continent8 | Zarety LLC | ylbc3 |
| Add | ng56n | UNASSIGNED | |
Asia | Japan | Tokyo (ty1) | Equinix | Starbase | z2o65 |
| Add | 3beeq | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Latvia | Riga 3 (rg3) | Nano | Bohatyrov Volodymyr | 6igux |
| Add | izs3i | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Sweden | Stockholm 1 (sh1) | Digital Realty | DFINITY Stiftung | lgp6d |
| Add | z5jll | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Slovenia | Maribor (mb1) | Posita.si | BlockFinance | ozfkj |
| Add | 62qwz | UNASSIGNED | |
North America | United States of America (the) | Atlanta 2 (at2) | Datasite | Giant Leaf, LLC | spsu4 |
| Add | gp2km | UNASSIGNED | |
North America | United States of America (the) | Las Vegas (lv1) | Flexential | 87m Neuron, LLC | gsps3 |
| Add | iqnlc | UNASSIGNED | |
Africa | South Africa | Gauteng 1 (jb1) | Teraco | Karel Frank | 2rzvs |
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Proposal 137232 Review | Lorimer - CO.DELTA △
VOTE: YES
TLDR: Creates a new subnet that conforms to the IC Target Topology and associated business rules (such as 1 DFINITY-owned node for ease of subnet recovery).
I’ve also reviewed the initialisation config which I’ll post separately for all of the proposed subnets, at which point a link to will be provided → here
Decentralisation Stats
Subnet node distance stats (distance between any 2 nodes in the subnet) →
| Smallest Distance | Average Distance | Largest Distance | |
|---|---|---|---|
| PROPOSED | 224.22 km | 7762.977 km | 16457.749 km |
Subnet characteristic counts →
| Continents | Countries | Data Centers | Owners | Node Providers | Node Operator | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| PROPOSED | 4 | 11 | 13 | 13 | 13 | 13 |
Largest number of nodes with the same characteristic (e.g. continent, country, data center, etc.) →
| Continent | Country | Data Center | Owner | Node Provider | Node Operator | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| PROPOSED | 6 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
See here for acceptable limits → Motion 137147
The above subnet information is illustrated below, followed by a node reference table:
Map Description
- Green marker represents an added node
- Highlighted patches represent the country the above nodes sit within (red if the country is removed, green if added, otherwise grey)
Node Changes
| Action | Node | Status | Continent | Country | Data Center | Owner | Node Provider | Node Operator | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Add | 3s6fj | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Belgium | Brussels (br1) | Digital Realty | Allusion | mjeqs |
| Add | g2yrq | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Switzerland | Geneva (ge1) | HighDC | Extragone SA | yngfj |
| Add | yzwxm | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Switzerland | Zurich 6 (zh6) | Green.ch | Sygnum Bank | ciprs |
| Add | cp7d4 | UNASSIGNED | |
Asia | Georgia | Tbilisi 1 (tb1) | Cloud9 | George Bassadone | yhfy4 |
| Add | xbeha | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Isle of Man | Douglas 2 (im2) | Continent8 | Zarety LLC | ylbc3 |
| Add | f4xs2 | UNASSIGNED | |
Asia | India | Greater Noida 1 (gn1) | Yotta | ACCUSET SOLUTIONS | slaxf |
| Add | cgm5b | UNASSIGNED | |
Asia | Japan | Tokyo 3 (ty3) | Equinix | Starbase | 7ldwr |
| Add | xatzx | UNASSIGNED | |
Asia | Korea (the Republic of) | Seoul 1 (sl1) | Megazone Cloud | Neptune Partners | ukji3 |
| Add | qpt6h | UNASSIGNED | |
Asia | Sri Lanka | Colombo 1 (cm1) | OrionStellar | Geodd Pvt Ltd | ywjtr |
| Add | 364us | UNASSIGNED | |
Asia | Singapore | Singapore 3 (sg3) | Racks Central | Protocol16 | vicvb |
| Add | 6bbgn | UNASSIGNED | |
North America | United States of America (the) | Las Vegas (lv1) | Flexential | 87m Neuron, LLC | gsps3 |
| Add | 4jv6f | UNASSIGNED | |
North America | United States of America (the) | Washington 1 (se1) | Evocative | DFINITY Stiftung | xph6u |
| Add | 7fiyj | UNASSIGNED | |
Africa | South Africa | Cape Town 2 (ct2) | Teraco | Kontrapunt (Pty) Ltd | x7fjr |
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Proposal 137231 Review | Lorimer - CO.DELTA △
VOTE: NO
TLDR: The proposed subnet topology contains 2 nodes from the rbn2y+g7dkt+acqus cluster (more than 1 breaks the ‘independent party’ imperative that each subnet needs to adhere to). The nodes involved are:
Decentralisation Stats
Subnet node distance stats (distance between any 2 nodes in the subnet) →
| Smallest Distance | Average Distance | Largest Distance | |
|---|---|---|---|
| PROPOSED | 42.554 km | 7707.899 km | 16501.202 km |
Subnet characteristic counts →
| Continents | Countries | Data Centers | Owners | Node Providers | Node Operator | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| PROPOSED | 5 | 10 | 13 | 13 | 13 | 13 |
Largest number of nodes with the same characteristic (e.g. continent, country, data center, etc.) →
| Continent | Country | Data Center | Owner | Node Provider | Node Operator | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| PROPOSED | 7 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
See here for acceptable limits → Motion 137147
The above subnet information is illustrated below, followed by a node reference table:
Map Description
- Green marker represents an added node
- Highlighted patches represent the country the above nodes sit within (red if the country is removed, green if added, otherwise grey)
Node Changes
| Action | Node | Status | Continent | Country | Data Center | Owner | Node Provider | Node Operator | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Add | m345s | UNASSIGNED | |
Oceania | Australia | Queensland 1 (sc1) | NEXTDC | Karel Frank | f3toa |
| Add | zdean | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Belgium | Antwerp (an1) | Datacenter United | DeNoDe | z4wll |
| Add | 4i64c | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Belgium | Brussels (br1) | Digital Realty | Allusion | mjeqs |
| Add | mvq4c | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Switzerland | Geneva (ge1) | HighDC | Decentralized Entities Foundation | xdara |
| Add | 6kuom | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Switzerland | Zurich 6 (zh6) | Green.ch | Sygnum Bank | ciprs |
| Add | zgtrt | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Czechia | South Moravian Region 1 (bn1) | Master Internet | Maksym Ishchenko | c3oqp |
| Add | fnopq | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Isle of Man | Douglas 2 (im2) | Continent8 | Zarety LLC | ylbc3 |
| Add | asad5 | UNASSIGNED | |
Asia | Japan | Tokyo (ty1) | Equinix | Starbase | cqjev |
| Add | dfcny | UNASSIGNED | |
Asia | Singapore | Singapore (sg1) | Telin | OneSixtyTwo Digital Capital | wuhly |
| Add | vodet | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Slovenia | Maribor (mb1) | Posita.si | BlockFinance | ozfkj |
| Add | 7pxqq | UNASSIGNED | |
North America | United States of America (the) | Dallas (dl1) | Flexential | 87m Neuron, LLC | mw64v |
| Add | 4gvj7 | UNASSIGNED | |
North America | United States of America (the) | Washington 1 (se1) | Evocative | DFINITY Stiftung | xph6u |
| Add | wazkf | UNASSIGNED | |
Africa | South Africa | Gauteng 2 (jb2) | Africa Data Centres | Honeycomb Capital (Pty) Ltd | 3bohy |
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Proposal 137229 Review | Lorimer - CO.DELTA △
VOTE: YES
TLDR: Creates a new subnet that conforms to the IC Target Topology and associated business rules (such as 1 DFINITY-owned node for ease of subnet recovery).
I’ve also reviewed the initialisation config which I’ll post separately for all of the proposed subnets, at which point a link to will be provided → here
Decentralisation Stats
Subnet node distance stats (distance between any 2 nodes in the subnet) →
| Smallest Distance | Average Distance | Largest Distance | |
|---|---|---|---|
| PROPOSED | 490.114 km | 7543.149 km | 16501.202 km |
Subnet characteristic counts →
| Continents | Countries | Data Centers | Owners | Node Providers | Node Operator | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| PROPOSED | 4 | 12 | 13 | 13 | 13 | 13 |
Largest number of nodes with the same characteristic (e.g. continent, country, data center, etc.) →
| Continent | Country | Data Center | Owner | Node Provider | Node Operator | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| PROPOSED | 5 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
See here for acceptable limits → Motion 137147
The above subnet information is illustrated below, followed by a node reference table:
Map Description
- Green marker represents an added node
- Highlighted patches represent the country the above nodes sit within (red if the country is removed, green if added, otherwise grey)
Node Changes
| Action | Node | Status | Continent | Country | Data Center | Owner | Node Provider | Node Operator | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Add | swzzz | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Belgium | Brussels (br1) | Digital Realty | Allusion | mjeqs |
| Add | 46dgm | UNASSIGNED | |
North America | Canada | Toronto (to1) | Cyxtera | 0X52 | wrg4t |
| Add | l4tph | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Switzerland | Zurich 5 (zh5) | Green.ch | Reist Telecom AG | sqxhb |
| Add | clpy5 | UNASSIGNED | |
Asia | Hong Kong | HongKong 4 (hk4) | hkntt | Web3game | dg7of |
| Add | h57j6 | UNASSIGNED | |
Asia | Israel | Tel Aviv 1 (tv1) | Interhost | GeoNodes LLC | lis4o |
| Add | d4bgb | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Isle of Man | Douglas 2 (im2) | Continent8 | Zarety LLC | ylbc3 |
| Add | b37zb | UNASSIGNED | |
Asia | India | New Delhi 1 (nd1) | Marvelous Web3 DC | Marvelous Web3 | ri4lg |
| Add | e3l2o | UNASSIGNED | |
Asia | Japan | Tokyo (ty1) | Equinix | Starbase | z2o65 |
| Add | xbsjm | UNASSIGNED | |
Asia | Korea (the Republic of) | Seoul 3 (kr1) | KT | Pindar Technology Limited | iubpe |
| Add | ncrki | UNASSIGNED | |
Europe | Slovenia | Maribor (mb1) | Posita.si | BlockFinance | ozfkj |
| Add | 3655m | UNASSIGNED | |
North America | United States of America (the) | Atlanta 2 (at2) | Datasite | BLP22, LLC | 5syyj |
| Add | m4mgu | UNASSIGNED | |
North America | United States of America (the) | Washington 1 (se1) | Evocative | DFINITY Stiftung | xph6u |
| Add | hdkxy | UNASSIGNED | |
Africa | South Africa | Gauteng 2 (jb2) | Africa Data Centres | Honeycomb Capital (Pty) Ltd | 3bohy |
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As we can see sev_enabled (middle turquoise) is not set explicitly, unlike existing application subnets. However it’s an optional field so this will have the same effect (all other subnets have this explicitly set to false). While this is as specified by the newly adopted IC Target Topology for the non-US new subnets, it is misaligned with regard to the IC Target Topology specification for the US subnet (it should be configured with the SEV feature). That being said, no subnets are currently configured with this feature (my understanding is that it’s still in the works).
Note that the dark blue discrepancies on the left with regard to dkg_dealings_per_block are due to [] having been used instead of null in a few update config proposals (same effect though).
Other than this (and the max_number_of_canisters point raised by timk11) we can see that the subnets are configured consistently with other application subnets. It’s also worth noting that deprecated fields are explicitly included in the config payload, but this is required.
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Proposal 137229 Review | aligatorr - CO.DELTA △
VOTE: YES
TLDR:
- Replica version 60fb469 confirmed in proposal 137153
- Topology Nakamoto Coefficient is close to perfect 5
- All nodes UNASSIGNED
- Dfinity nodes count is 1
Nodes 13 added
| Node ID | Status | Country | City | Node Provider | Data Center | Data Center Owner |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
3655m-si4pt-xysac-y2fwl-htr7g-yhynz-zaey6-xzglx-yqnso-vutgb-lqe |
UNASSIGNED | US | Georgia | BLP22, LLC | at2 | Datasite |
46dgm-up32t-4urre-upnr3-p5o2g-kamxl-lm5wp-k3rhi-zo26u-bpiha-iae |
UNASSIGNED | CA | Ontario | 0X52 | to1 | Cyxtera |
b37zb-apiex-wwlpd-ccbxn-yes6n-q44fy-jtz3j-mjxrs-ecw7v-lzmut-oae |
UNASSIGNED | IN | New Delhi | Marvelous Web3 | nd1 | Marvelous Web3 DC |
clpy5-qdkib-dop3e-vts5k-btmkp-qncpk-kn4jj-zfiiu-a6b4m-nscgs-fqe |
UNASSIGNED | HK | HongKong | Web3game | hk4 | hkntt |
d4bgb-fhurc-bbdvo-ipdyx-mhb6t-ggr46-2qo42-tksma-svhyp-3ue4b-6qe |
UNASSIGNED | IM | Douglas | Zarety LLC | im2 | Continent8 |
e3l2o-4iy5c-43qaf-uvxbg-5slee-26j3w-iwdn3-ynwq3-z3ykg-kfzmo-pqe |
UNASSIGNED | JP | Tokyo | Starbase | ty1 | Equinix |
h57j6-72adp-jfeng-6xb5w-mqsgt-srmsc-gny3c-unzsx-fqrvu-ggao6-yae |
UNASSIGNED | IL | Tel Aviv | GeoNodes LLC | tv1 | Interhost |
hdkxy-jonbm-voico-5u7px-6vet6-6i7zx-xm65d-gdswt-2uvss-5o73g-aae |
UNASSIGNED | ZA | Gauteng | Honeycomb Capital (Pty) Ltd | jb2 | Africa Data Centres |
l4tph-sjzvn-2577n-igj5r-n2mwu-wqz5r-rabgw-xphul-dxpey-uwxnh-kae |
UNASSIGNED | CH | Zurich | Reist Telecom AG | zh5 | Green.ch |
m4mgu-gzf3s-4hwzh-7laf4-664rq-m6lu4-qs64b-yqrua-gfzdh-lmuf5-xqe |
UNASSIGNED | US | Washington | DFINITY Stiftung | se1 | Evocative |
ncrki-fugy2-kmcnn-k3u67-ezjsz-6s76c-2iucl-xc63o-vn2lk-yebq4-jqe |
UNASSIGNED | SI | Maribor | BlockFinance | mb1 | Posita.si |
swzzz-nct4o-kgh2s-fezeh-luamk-chexm-jsk4r-ks2qa-au63y-jtc7r-pae |
UNASSIGNED | BE | Brussels Capital | Allusion | br1 | Digital Realty |
xbsjm-f7kbx-wrerv-ponbs-e3kjp-pvt6d-lgjfv-kolpw-c4j3y-to5pe-7qe |
UNASSIGNED | KR | Seoul | Pindar Technology Limited | kr1 | KT |
Nakamoto Coefficients and Topology, avg = 4.80
| Attribute | Nakamoto Coefficient | Identical attribute values | Max allowed identical values | Unique Counts |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Country | 4 | 2 | 12 | |
| City | 5 | NA | 13 | |
| Data Center | 5 | 1 | 13 | |
| Data Center Owner | 5 | 1 | 13 | |
| Node Provider ID | 5 | 1 | 13 |
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Proposal 137232 Review | aligatorr - CO.DELTA △
VOTE: YES
TLDR: Good enough
- Replica version 60fb469 confirmed in proposal 137153
- All nodes UNASSIGNED
- Dfinity nodes count is 1
- Topology Nakamoto Coefficient is 8% below 5 - countries CH&US have 2 members
Nodes 13 added
| Node ID | Status | Country | City | Node Provider | Data Center | Data Center Owner |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
364us-2y667-wg3qr-zordv-pqlou-bra44-gjhhv-2jtnc-mr6xr-kmenh-4qe |
UNASSIGNED | SG | Singapore | Protocol16 | sg3 | Racks Central |
3s6fj-wulzc-ml7vo-vpvhj-4loap-25asb-m6efr-f52qf-ehpxb-7mh3k-vae |
UNASSIGNED | BE | Brussels Capital | Allusion | br1 | Digital Realty |
4jv6f-e5bq5-dwr5u-pptpu-5lh32-4zcfq-ujlq6-ckdbm-zwonj-yyxci-rqe |
UNASSIGNED | US | Washington | DFINITY Stiftung | se1 | Evocative |
6bbgn-jvexd-25pja-q5wgj-spyfw-lfm3g-pjf2t-x3zmf-7llwq-p63wm-rqe |
UNASSIGNED | US | Nevada | 87m Neuron, LLC | lv1 | Flexential |
7fiyj-xjxkj-fjvbl-tl4rp-6xvg3-moow7-dwtyi-nsxeg-unw7n-ivshf-pqe |
UNASSIGNED | ZA | Cape Town | Kontrapunt (Pty) Ltd | ct2 | Teraco |
cgm5b-6rf6e-ut46u-bidiy-ik7tp-w6q5a-l3oo3-qplkv-q5ced-mev5s-wae |
UNASSIGNED | JP | Tokyo | Starbase | ty3 | Equinix |
cp7d4-uiulo-a46se-yzti4-6qpmz-4rhug-d6rln-7aa5r-nc63x-6q7u7-aae |
UNASSIGNED | GE | Tbilisi | George Bassadone | tb1 | Cloud9 |
f4xs2-aejji-yt4ks-7sjyb-g7zxl-ayuc3-lw6tv-khrii-nlh7j-ttbqy-zae |
UNASSIGNED | IN | Greater Noida | ACCUSET SOLUTIONS | gn1 | Yotta |
g2yrq-l6heq-ztxzm-fd6aa-piqxh-wno3t-q3bhj-5qvd5-vukzm-z4bjx-kae |
UNASSIGNED | CH | Geneva | Extragone SA | ge1 | HighDC |
qpt6h-7m7xq-4crv7-pml2g-2jsxx-vxgv4-eka6d-hq4xj-73u5v-bsaki-zae |
UNASSIGNED | LK | Colombo | Geodd Pvt Ltd | cm1 | OrionStellar |
xatzx-j3mph-3xzxk-jz53j-afa3d-qxnac-fbejn-hvgpy-cmhlb-dkuhv-nqe |
UNASSIGNED | KR | Seoul | Neptune Partners | sl1 | Megazone Cloud |
xbeha-2lqtl-qb5tx-t2zgf-y3t22-iuqkv-fhemo-dnpr5-wwlxl-auyrq-jae |
UNASSIGNED | IM | Douglas | Zarety LLC | im2 | Continent8 |
yzwxm-j2n2r-whdxh-xqftn-lobyp-h5c5c-zomu3-uqc7k-gatex-aoayd-pae |
UNASSIGNED | CH | Zurich | Sygnum Bank | zh6 | Green.ch |
Nakamoto Coefficients and Topology, avg = 4.60
| Attribute | Nakamoto Coefficient | Identical attribute values | Max allowed identical values | Unique Counts |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Country | 3 | 2 | 11 | |
| City | 5 | NA | 13 | |
| Data Center | 5 | 1 | 13 | |
| Data Center Owner | 5 | 1 | 13 | |
| Node Provider ID | 5 | 1 | 13 |
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Proposal 137233 Review | aligatorr - CO.DELTA △
VOTE: YES
TLDR: Good enough.
- Replica version 60fb469 confirmed in proposal 137153
- All nodes UNASSIGNED
- Dfinity nodes count is 1
- Topology Nakamoto Coefficient is 8% below 5 - countries CH&US have 2 members
Nodes 13 added
| Node ID | Status | Country | City | Node Provider | Data Center | Data Center Owner |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
3beeq-bvtv4-mxeff-2ypcm-jnw74-envji-bflpz-sipbb-e6gnt-kfptx-5qe |
UNASSIGNED | LV | Riga | Bohatyrov Volodymyr | rg3 | Nano |
4lg7u-gpcph-smmt7-3c3mu-qyw6i-qlcvp-l2xws-piw34-vjd6x-665bt-lqe |
UNASSIGNED | IM | Douglas | Zarety LLC | im2 | Continent8 |
62qwz-bp4wo-tdrcm-vincq-mdhz3-g6bfq-axwcr-vog76-fe4f3-lvepx-bae |
UNASSIGNED | US | Georgia | Giant Leaf, LLC | at2 | Datasite |
6dmez-tuvfo-pxyw3-h3ds7-wie24-mpalp-fhjym-w7oh2-s2mqo-bsxkc-5ae |
UNASSIGNED | CH | Geneva | Decentralized Entities Foundation | ge1 | HighDC |
dh4nc-xdofs-5bsqf-zny3q-zjfhj-sn76b-vizti-sjzmv-5jvqc-sjhv2-iae |
UNASSIGNED | CA | Ontario | Blockchain Development Labs | to2 | Cyxtera |
e5xk3-7dbi6-2zaxv-7ng3v-if5va-yktmq-roase-rqvx3-dii3z-2kh3r-vqe |
UNASSIGNED | CH | Zurich | Sygnum Bank | zh6 | Green.ch |
gp2km-rzw5z-latpo-vp2m3-jdfqv-khn3m-i7l3z-nygeu-q2bfb-7aw5i-uqe |
UNASSIGNED | US | Nevada | 87m Neuron, LLC | lv1 | Flexential |
iqnlc-oy677-m524v-tisrn-3v44n-2eylu-bclq3-fqjtg-4ab7z-ycrie-mqe |
UNASSIGNED | ZA | Gauteng | Karel Frank | jb1 | Teraco |
izs3i-wcyvp-s47c2-enas5-77nmz-eib7t-3psjt-dsgr3-afgel-3hmkn-wqe |
UNASSIGNED | SE | Stockholm | DFINITY Stiftung | sh1 | Digital Realty |
mwrqx-e25kz-tchcz-quxpv-jhwdn-rwxeg-au4ci-xv5ko-s44pv-dmu6g-kqe |
UNASSIGNED | HK | HongKong | Pindar Technology Limited | hk1 | Unicom |
ng56n-tx2si-rxkmq-bkjnr-3fx6p-lw5pi-5pvsl-kdcg7-6ts24-m55dx-tqe |
UNASSIGNED | JP | Tokyo | Starbase | ty1 | Equinix |
ofdd3-yoprc-tnvr7-tslrz-6rtn7-xofz6-kkoyi-ncfhd-aupek-kmtii-sae |
UNASSIGNED | BE | Flanders | DeNoDe | an1 | Datacenter United |
z5jll-2kgdy-vuzye-orvjn-u3uyz-2jrdt-5jxzj-hu5zv-pkts2-cvuhe-mqe |
UNASSIGNED | SI | Maribor | BlockFinance | mb1 | Posita.si |
Nakamoto Coefficients and Topology, avg = 4.60
| Attribute | Nakamoto Coefficient | Identical attribute values | Max allowed identical values | Unique Counts |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Country | 3 | 2 | 11 | |
| City | 5 | NA | 13 | |
| Data Center | 5 | 1 | 13 | |
| Data Center Owner | 5 | 1 | 13 | |
| Node Provider ID | 5 | 1 | 13 |
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Proposal 137234 Review | aligatorr - CO.DELTA △
VOTE: NO
TLDR: No due to interconnected node providers and low Nakamoto Coefficient - it would be even worse if interconnection is taken into account.
- Interconnected node providers detected: Blue Ant LLC, Zarety LLC !!!
- Topology Nakamoto Coefficient is closer to 4 than 5
- Replica version 60fb469 confirmed in proposal 137153
- All nodes UNASSIGNED
- Dfinity nodes count is 1
Nodes 13 added
| Node ID | Status | Country | City | Node Provider | Data Center | Data Center Owner |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
6ucn7-aiavt-uucq2-cvnjf-nwmr5-vetsg-q73h7-uzqjt-klm5x-e7qxu-mqe |
UNASSIGNED | CH | Zurich | Reist Telecom AG | zh5 | Green.ch |
abg3e-zrvni-lab54-xuqtf-beh5q-lijks-zlbd5-wkpwg-xua7u-e4g7y-oae |
UNASSIGNED | IM | Douglas | Blue Ant LLC | im1 | Manx Telecom |
clfor-3la2h-lohby-tfriy-xfjkf-fnqpw-kkhjw-ctb2i-tscfx-ddwu7-bqe |
UNASSIGNED | CA | British Columbia | Blockchain Development Labs | bc1 | Cyxtera |
csrkp-dimpe-7dybx-jmzjj-tjcjf-t57c4-tf4cq-cjeix-6tyah-qkyre-zae |
UNASSIGNED | US | Washington | DFINITY Stiftung | se1 | Evocative |
ctqez-oqvmf-kkwto-wlehz-grh5a-l7enx-7e7ds-hcn75-mpdj5-pujdj-eae |
UNASSIGNED | CH | Zurich | Tomahawk.vc | zh4 | Nine.Ch |
f6etz-5w6fg-ho2uo-gjklb-7oxto-i2z2u-udqih-6evln-4tb5s-iliw3-7ae |
UNASSIGNED | SG | Singapore | Protocol16 | sg3 | Racks Central |
jux3z-ivwyz-ury64-jth4b-rrbfi-sx5af-ci72l-j4ot3-nl5jk-z4ilu-6qe |
UNASSIGNED | HK | HongKong | Web3game | hk4 | hkntt |
ognrk-q4exl-3wf25-yrrsy-mtezk-e3qww-k6s5v-2pikz-gto6z-dyl2y-eae |
UNASSIGNED | GE | Tbilisi | George Bassadone | tb1 | Cloud9 |
uajv3-ocqku-n5d2z-kbw3g-mqsir-er7gs-mhsdg-27f6d-xbfjl-uugdr-cae |
UNASSIGNED | AU | Queensland | ANYPOINT PTY LTD | sc1 | NEXTDC |
uw4qe-cjsp5-sfdvk-3d5y7-ufvcj-mi6x5-f3xtd-ovphb-6ipa2-aw3pq-lqe |
UNASSIGNED | SI | Maribor | BlockFinance | mb1 | Posita.si |
xszxr-w2ae6-g2fof-f6hp4-cquvx-4vyu2-ux2tn-nij6l-b7hue-4r4kl-gqe |
UNASSIGNED | US | Virginia | MI Servers | st1 | CyrusOne |
ywdqr-vd2io-gz6n3-ey4ns-h7gu7-l4huz-dk36s-fr7er-lsftp-77wde-gae |
UNASSIGNED | IM | Douglas | Zarety LLC | im2 | Continent8 |
z2tgr-ilz6g-ifi6c-3yeiq-zo5sc-humd5-vc6s6-wogpu-yj5rp-wwuta-sqe |
UNASSIGNED | BE | Flanders | NODAO | an1 | Datacenter United |
Nakamoto Coefficients and Topology, avg = 4.20
| Attribute | Nakamoto Coefficient | Identical attribute values | Max allowed identical values | Unique Counts |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Country | 3 | 2 | 10 | |
| City | 3 | 2->Zurich, 2->Douglas | NA | 11 |
| Data Center | 5 | 1 | 13 | |
| Data Center Owner | 5 | 1 | 13 | |
| Node Provider ID | 5 | 1 | 13 |
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Proposal 137235 Review | aligatorr - CO.DELTA △
VOTE: NO
TLDR: No due to not meeting target topology for US subnet.
- 1 Nakamoto parameter
owner: Flexential, CyrusOne, Datasiteabove max identical count of 1 !!! - SEV is not enabled but it should be based on target topology !!!
- Topology Nakamoto Coefficient is closer to 4 than 5
- Replica version 60fb469 confirmed in proposal 137153
- All nodes UNASSIGNED
- Dfinity nodes count is 1
Nodes 13 added
| Node ID | Status | Country | City | Node Provider | Data Center | Data Center Owner |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
fdunq-3nknr-3nex5-eravm-bauyc-ry3fs-mncyc-nzp4b-4prvk-4grhz-yae |
UNASSIGNED | US | California | NoviSystems, LLC | fm1 | Hurricane Electric |
flwxw-xfnwf-rrx6p-zz3p4-eewsc-cm47m-cnjsa-qxn5x-obwat-rzfex-vqe |
UNASSIGNED | US | Texas | 87m Neuron, LLC | dl1 | Flexential |
g6qhu-4qwhq-w4ccl-5355c-fbghd-xlo4o-4h5lv-wkfrn-gxd33-6elc2-pae |
UNASSIGNED | US | Florida | NODAO | mm1 | Digital Realty |
gbsw6-cw2nh-vwjir-vkmwb-x5vgm-24o4r-7umgj-noeim-zd2pq-esiic-zqe |
UNASSIGNED | US | Illinois | 100 Count Holdings, LLC | ch3 | CyrusOne |
hizzw-uvqcw-rvn3v-hculj-rrsc7-fvq2c-nzsjr-jvymi-5ilat-bvvci-kqe |
UNASSIGNED | US | Arizona | MI Servers | ph1 | CyrusOne |
icbco-xw6zg-wlhyp-juqf4-h5gbs-jjein-nmc6n-itoxd-o52q7-q7fjz-gae |
UNASSIGNED | US | Georgia | BLP22, LLC | at2 | Datasite |
m23z7-mk7ap-ppgvt-3ijq4-plmvx-gocl2-727gg-so5gf-gm2oa-eqjse-gqe |
UNASSIGNED | US | Oregon | Uvaca Labs LLC | pl1 | Flexential |
m7fhy-jb2rv-5b755-7ysgo-a3v7i-37r2h-jpkkl-acrqc-ft5cz-i4hgl-jqe |
UNASSIGNED | US | Pennsylvania | Bigger Capital | aw1 | Tierpoint |
nusc3-gza5p-4iw7a-ea7xu-b6afg-r4sd3-saik7-io6zs-c36mg-q47ut-qae |
UNASSIGNED | US | California | InfoObjects | sj3 | InfoObjects |
ou6hm-55t2q-vpvyv-njatl-mjdtd-bkwar-uw2se-nybra-pseo3-5m23r-rae |
UNASSIGNED | US | Washington | DFINITY Stiftung | se1 | Evocative |
s4nii-ep5vi-2fps5-3gs6i-3twfu-pbreo-kalps-k26wy-ivkau-5u2qf-uqe |
UNASSIGNED | US | Illinois | Arceau NP LLC | ch2 | Tierpoint |
svvvx-7wy6s-l7mkh-ewfob-usdnp-dii3m-gfqc2-g67bp-h435b-d75iv-bae |
UNASSIGNED | US | Florida | Giant Leaf, LLC | or1 | Datasite |
wqqsg-ww46o-muchq-pty53-amebx-mucdz-ugjkt-fvjqr-5ncmg-knqg4-aqe |
UNASSIGNED | US | Texas | 43rd Big Idea Films | hu1 | TRG |
Nakamoto Coefficients and Topology, avg = 4.20
| Attribute | Nakamoto Coefficient | Identical attribute values | Max allowed identical values | Unique Counts |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Country | 5 | 13 | 1 | |
| City | 3 | 2->California, 2->Texas, 2->Florida, 2->Illinois | NA | 9 |
| Data Center | 5 | 1 | 13 | |
| Data Center Owner | 3 | 2->Flexential, 2->CyrusOne, 2->Datasite, 2->Tierpoint |
1 | 9 |
| Node Provider ID | 5 | 1 | 13 |
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Proposals #137229, 137231, 137232, 137233, 137234 & 137235 — ZoLee | CodeGov
Vote: Adopted
Reason:
The proposals are correct and are inline with the previously adopted proposal 137147 that also serves as suggestion for the Subnet Target Structure until the NNS adopts a new target topology.
All proposals add new application subnets to support the growth of Caffeine. The chosen nodes are all healthy unassigned and the payload is standard for subnet_type:"application".
While one can debate the US-only application subnet, I am pretty confident that Dfinity is aware of the only 10 DC at this moment and this is the only way to have a US subnet, things may change in the future.
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Summary:
This proposals were made in order to increase the number of Application Subnets from 51 in the previous IC Target Topology to 60 with the latest to support the growth of Caffeine AI, for more background check the above post.
Proposal 137229 – LaCosta | CodeGov
Vote: ADOPT
Creates a new Application Subnet with the following configuration:
node_provider: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
data_center: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
data_center_owner: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
area: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
country: 4.00 -> 4.00 (+0%)
Mean Nakamoto: 4.83
Details
node_provider data_center data_center_owner area country
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2wxzd-qrbrs-ailta-kdtyb-ucg35-xcxd4-txevb-ot7hx-wiyus-szcca-nqe 1 at2 1 Africa Data Centres 1 Brussels Capital 1 BE 1
64xe5-tx2s3-4gjmj-pnozr-fejw2-77y5y-rhcjk-glnmx-62brf-qin5q-pqe 1 br1 1 Continent8 1 Douglas 1 CA 1
6sq7t-knkul-fko6h-xzvnf-ktbvr-jhx7r-hapzr-kjlek-whugy-zt6ip-xqe 1 hk4 1 Cyxtera 1 Gauteng 1 CH 1
7uioy-xitfw-yqcko-5gpya-3lpsw-dw7zt-dyyyf-wfqif-jvi76-fdbkg-cqe 1 im2 1 Datasite 1 Georgia 1 HK 1
bvcsg-3od6r-jnydw-eysln-aql7w-td5zn-ay5m6-sibd2-jzojt-anwag-mqe 1 jb2 1 Digital Realty 1 HongKong 1 IL 1
c5svp-7pkmf-agz5x-536k7-r7rcw-4wn3a-eo7pt-ry7su-j42uq-bvnzf-iqe 1 kr1 1 Equinix 1 Maribor 1 IM 1
glrjs-2dbzh-owbdd-fpp5e-eweoz-nsuto-e3jmk-tl42c-wem4f-qfpfa-qqe 1 mb1 1 Evocative 1 New Delhi 1 IN 1
ma7dp-gz4tg-3c2wv-pgnsv-wna7u-czvhu-fpu47-t4dr6-gzxql-wr2m2-qae 1 nd1 1 Green.ch 1 Ontario 1 JP 1
nmdd6-rouxw-55leh-wcbkn-kejit-njvje-p4s6e-v64d3-nlbjb-vipul-mae 1 se1 1 Interhost 1 Seoul 1 KR 1
r3yjn-kthmg-pfgmb-2fngg-5c7d7-t6kqg-wi37r-j7gy6-iee64-kjdja-jae 1 to1 1 KT 1 Tel Aviv 1 SI 1
rbn2y-6vfsb-gv35j-4cyvy-pzbdu-e5aum-jzjg6-5b4n5-vuguf-ycubq-zae 1 tv1 1 Marvelous Web3 DC 1 Tokyo 1 US 2
sixix-2nyqd-t2k2v-vlsyz-dssko-ls4hl-hyij4-y7mdp-ja6cj-nsmpf-yae 1 ty1 1 Posita.si 1 Washington 1 ZA 1
sma3p-ivkif-hz7nu-ngmvq-ibnjg-nubke-zf6gh-wbnfc-2dlng-l3die-zqe 1 zh5 1 hkntt 1 Zurich 1
This follows the IC Target Topology and has a decentralization close to 5 (best scenario), with two nodes being in the same country. The biggest difference in the configuration of this subnet compared to others is that the field max_number_of_canisters is set to 0 meaning that currently canisters can’t be deployed on this subnet and a further proposal to upgrade this subnet will be needed.
Proposal 137231 – LaCosta | CodeGov
Vote: ADOPT
Creates a new Application Subnet with the following configuration:
node_provider: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
data_center: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
data_center_owner: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
area: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
country: 3.00 -> 3.00 (+0%)
Mean Nakamoto: 4.67
Details
node_provider data_center data_center_owner area country
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4r6qy-tljxg-slziw-zoteo-pboxh-vlctz-hkv2d-7zior-u3pxm-mmuxb-cae 1 an1 1 Africa Data Centres 1 Brussels Capital 1 AU 1
6nbcy-kprg6-ax3db-kh3cz-7jllk-oceyh-jznhs-riguq-fvk6z-6tsds-rqe 1 bn1 1 Continent8 1 Douglas 1 BE 2
6r5lw-l7db7-uwixn-iw5en-yy55y-ilbtq-e6gcv-g22r2-j3g6q-y37jk-jqe 1 br1 1 Datacenter United 1 Flanders 1 CH 2
acqus-l4yyc-h44lw-grfxw-h7jqf-mtvt3-huwmj-4s372-sc5db-5nsfr-2ae 1 dl1 1 Digital Realty 1 Gauteng 1 CZ 1
bvcsg-3od6r-jnydw-eysln-aql7w-td5zn-ay5m6-sibd2-jzojt-anwag-mqe 1 ge1 1 Equinix 1 Geneva 1 IM 1
c5svp-7pkmf-agz5x-536k7-r7rcw-4wn3a-eo7pt-ry7su-j42uq-bvnzf-iqe 1 im2 1 Evocative 1 Maribor 1 JP 1
eipr5-izbom-neyqh-s3ec2-52eww-cyfpg-qfomg-3dpwj-4pffh-34xcu-7qe 1 jb2 1 Flexential 1 Queensland 1 SG 1
glrjs-2dbzh-owbdd-fpp5e-eweoz-nsuto-e3jmk-tl42c-wem4f-qfpfa-qqe 1 mb1 1 Green.ch 1 Singapore 1 SI 1
nmdd6-rouxw-55leh-wcbkn-kejit-njvje-p4s6e-v64d3-nlbjb-vipul-mae 1 sc1 1 HighDC 1 South Moravian Region 1 US 2
rbn2y-6vfsb-gv35j-4cyvy-pzbdu-e5aum-jzjg6-5b4n5-vuguf-ycubq-zae 1 se1 1 Master Internet 1 Texas 1 ZA 1
sixix-2nyqd-t2k2v-vlsyz-dssko-ls4hl-hyij4-y7mdp-ja6cj-nsmpf-yae 1 sg1 1 NEXTDC 1 Tokyo 1
unqqg-no4b2-vbyad-ytik2-t3vly-3e57q-aje2t-sjb5l-bd4ke-chggn-uqe 1 ty1 1 Posita.si 1 Washington 1
w4buy-lgwzr-pccs7-huzhh-qqnws-rns75-iaoox-jolrm-xs2ra-vdu3o-2qe 1 zh6 1 Telin 1 Zurich 1
This follows the IC Target Topology and has a decentralization close to 5 (best scenario), with three countries having each two nodes. The biggest difference in the configuration of this subnet compared to others is that the field max_number_of_canisters is set to 0 meaning that currently canisters can’t be deployed on this subnet and a further proposal to upgrade this subnet will be needed.
Proposal 137232 – LaCosta | CodeGov
Vote: ADOPT
Creates a new Application Subnet with the following configuration:
node_provider: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
data_center: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
data_center_owner: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
area: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
country: 3.00 -> 3.00 (+0%)
Mean Nakamoto: 4.67
Details
node_provider data_center data_center_owner area country
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4dibr-2alzr-h6kva-bvwn2-yqgsl-o577t-od46o-v275p-a2zov-tcw4f-eae 1 br1 1 Cloud9 1 Brussels Capital 1 BE 1
6r5lw-l7db7-uwixn-iw5en-yy55y-ilbtq-e6gcv-g22r2-j3g6q-y37jk-jqe 1 cm1 1 Continent8 1 Cape Town 1 CH 2
7ryes-jnj73-bsyu4-lo6h7-lbxk5-x4ien-lylws-5qwzl-hxd5f-xjh3w-mqe 1 ct2 1 Digital Realty 1 Colombo 1 GE 1
bvcsg-3od6r-jnydw-eysln-aql7w-td5zn-ay5m6-sibd2-jzojt-anwag-mqe 1 ge1 1 Equinix 1 Douglas 1 IM 1
cp5ib-twnmx-h4dvd-isef2-tu44u-kb2ka-fise5-m4hta-hnxoq-k45mm-hqe 1 gn1 1 Evocative 1 Geneva 1 IN 1
eipr5-izbom-neyqh-s3ec2-52eww-cyfpg-qfomg-3dpwj-4pffh-34xcu-7qe 1 im2 1 Flexential 1 Greater Noida 1 JP 1
eybf4-6t6bb-unfb2-h2hhn-rrfi2-cd2vs-phksn-jdmbn-i463m-4lzds-vqe 1 lv1 1 Green.ch 1 Nevada 1 KR 1
glrjs-2dbzh-owbdd-fpp5e-eweoz-nsuto-e3jmk-tl42c-wem4f-qfpfa-qqe 1 se1 1 HighDC 1 Seoul 1 LK 1
py2kr-ipr2p-ryh66-x3a3v-5ts6u-7rfhf-alkna-ueffh-hz5ox-lt6du-qqe 1 sg3 1 Megazone Cloud 1 Singapore 1 SG 1
rbn2y-6vfsb-gv35j-4cyvy-pzbdu-e5aum-jzjg6-5b4n5-vuguf-ycubq-zae 1 sl1 1 OrionStellar 1 Tbilisi 1 US 2
sixix-2nyqd-t2k2v-vlsyz-dssko-ls4hl-hyij4-y7mdp-ja6cj-nsmpf-yae 1 tb1 1 Racks Central 1 Tokyo 1 ZA 1
vegae-c4chr-aetfj-7gzuh-c23sx-u2paz-vmvbn-bcage-pu7lu-mptnn-eqe 1 ty3 1 Teraco 1 Washington 1
x7uok-pi537-itm37-unjn3-ewkze-kuetg-kptap-nuqak-auq7z-tn5ey-dqe 1 zh6 1 Yotta 1 Zurich 1
This follows the IC Target Topology and has a decentralization close to 5 (best scenario), with two countries having each two nodes. The biggest difference in the configuration of this subnet compared to others is that the field max_number_of_canisters is set to 0 meaning that currently canisters can’t be deployed on this subnet and a further proposal to upgrade this subnet will be needed.
Proposal 137233 – LaCosta | CodeGov
Vote: ADOPT
Creates a new Application Subnet with the following configuration:
node_provider: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
data_center: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
data_center_owner: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
area: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
country: 3.00 -> 3.00 (+0%)
Mean Nakamoto: 4.67
Details
node_provider data_center data_center_owner area country
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6r5lw-l7db7-uwixn-iw5en-yy55y-ilbtq-e6gcv-g22r2-j3g6q-y37jk-jqe 1 an1 1 Continent8 1 Douglas 1 BE 1
7at4h-nhtvt-a4s55-jigss-wr2ha-ysxkn-e6w7x-7ggnm-qd3d5-ry66r-cae 1 at2 1 Cyxtera 1 Flanders 1 CA 1
acqus-l4yyc-h44lw-grfxw-h7jqf-mtvt3-huwmj-4s372-sc5db-5nsfr-2ae 1 ge1 1 Datacenter United 1 Gauteng 1 CH 2
bvcsg-3od6r-jnydw-eysln-aql7w-td5zn-ay5m6-sibd2-jzojt-anwag-mqe 1 hk1 1 Datasite 1 Geneva 1 HK 1
c5svp-7pkmf-agz5x-536k7-r7rcw-4wn3a-eo7pt-ry7su-j42uq-bvnzf-iqe 1 im2 1 Digital Realty 1 Georgia 1 IM 1
dhywe-eouw6-hstpj-ahsnw-xnjxq-cmqks-47mrg-nnncb-3sr5d-rac6m-nae 1 jb1 1 Equinix 1 HongKong 1 JP 1
eipr5-izbom-neyqh-s3ec2-52eww-cyfpg-qfomg-3dpwj-4pffh-34xcu-7qe 1 lv1 1 Flexential 1 Maribor 1 LV 1
glrjs-2dbzh-owbdd-fpp5e-eweoz-nsuto-e3jmk-tl42c-wem4f-qfpfa-qqe 1 mb1 1 Green.ch 1 Nevada 1 SE 1
r3yjn-kthmg-pfgmb-2fngg-5c7d7-t6kqg-wi37r-j7gy6-iee64-kjdja-jae 1 rg3 1 HighDC 1 Ontario 1 SI 1
sixix-2nyqd-t2k2v-vlsyz-dssko-ls4hl-hyij4-y7mdp-ja6cj-nsmpf-yae 1 sh1 1 Nano 1 Riga 1 US 2
unqqg-no4b2-vbyad-ytik2-t3vly-3e57q-aje2t-sjb5l-bd4ke-chggn-uqe 1 to2 1 Posita.si 1 Stockholm 1 ZA 1
w4buy-lgwzr-pccs7-huzhh-qqnws-rns75-iaoox-jolrm-xs2ra-vdu3o-2qe 1 ty1 1 Teraco 1 Tokyo 1
wwdbq-xuqhf-eydzu-oyl7p-ga565-zm7s7-yrive-ozgsy-zzgh3-qwb3j-cae 1 zh6 1 Unicom 1 Zurich 1
This follows the IC Target Topology and has a decentralization close to 5 (best scenario), with two countries having two nodes each. The biggest difference in the configuration of this subnet compared to others is that the field max_number_of_canisters is set to 0 meaning that currently canisters can’t be deployed on this subnet and a further proposal to upgrade this subnet will be needed.
Proposal 137234 – LaCosta | CodeGov
Vote: ADOPT
Creates a new Application Subnet with the following configuration:
node_provider: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
data_center: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
data_center_owner: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
area: 3.00 -> 3.00 (+0%)
country: 3.00 -> 3.00 (+0%)
Mean Nakamoto: 4.33
Details
node_provider data_center data_center_owner area country
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64xe5-tx2s3-4gjmj-pnozr-fejw2-77y5y-rhcjk-glnmx-62brf-qin5q-pqe 1 an1 1 Cloud9 1 British Columbia 1 AU 1
7at4h-nhtvt-a4s55-jigss-wr2ha-ysxkn-e6w7x-7ggnm-qd3d5-ry66r-cae 1 bc1 1 Continent8 1 Douglas 2 BE 1
bvcsg-3od6r-jnydw-eysln-aql7w-td5zn-ay5m6-sibd2-jzojt-anwag-mqe 1 hk4 1 CyrusOne 1 Flanders 1 CA 1
c5svp-7pkmf-agz5x-536k7-r7rcw-4wn3a-eo7pt-ry7su-j42uq-bvnzf-iqe 1 im1 1 Cyxtera 1 HongKong 1 CH 2
fwnmn-zn7yt-5jaia-fkxlr-dzwyu-keguq-npfxq-mc72w-exeae-n5thj-oae 1 im2 1 Datacenter United 1 Maribor 1 GE 1
g7dkt-aapqq-j3hqt-xtiys-pwapz-idulp-nwagd-zibqm-caxa4-gc23t-3qe 1 mb1 1 Evocative 1 Queensland 1 HK 1
glrjs-2dbzh-owbdd-fpp5e-eweoz-nsuto-e3jmk-tl42c-wem4f-qfpfa-qqe 1 sc1 1 Green.ch 1 Singapore 1 IM 2
izmhk-lpjum-uo4oy-lviba-yctpc-arg4b-2ywim-vgoiu-gqaj2-gskmw-2qe 1 se1 1 Manx Telecom 1 Tbilisi 1 SG 1
ma7dp-gz4tg-3c2wv-pgnsv-wna7u-czvhu-fpu47-t4dr6-gzxql-wr2m2-qae 1 sg3 1 NEXTDC 1 Virginia 1 SI 1
rpfvr-s3kuw-xdqrr-pvuuj-hc7hl-olytw-yxlie-fmr74-sr572-6gdqx-iqe 1 st1 1 Nine.Ch 1 Washington 1 US 2
ucjqj-jmbj3-rs4aq-ekzpw-ltjs3-zrcma-t6r3t-m5wxc-j5yrj-unwoj-mae 1 tb1 1 Posita.si 1 Zurich 2
vegae-c4chr-aetfj-7gzuh-c23sx-u2paz-vmvbn-bcage-pu7lu-mptnn-eqe 1 zh4 1 Racks Central 1
x7uok-pi537-itm37-unjn3-ewkze-kuetg-kptap-nuqak-auq7z-tn5ey-dqe 1 zh5 1 hkntt 1
This follows the IC Target Topology and has a decentralization close to 5 (best scenario), with two countries having three nodes each (currently the area metric is not considered for the target topology. The biggest difference in the configuration of this subnet compared to others is that the field max_number_of_canisters is set to 0 meaning that currently canisters can’t be deployed on this subnet and a further proposal to upgrade this subnet will be needed.
Proposal 137235 – LaCosta | CodeGov
Vote: REJECT
Creates a new US-only Application Subnet with the following configuration:
node_provider: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
data_center: 5.00 -> 5.00 (+0%)
data_center_owner: 3.00 -> 3.00 (+0%)
area: 3.00 -> 3.00 (+0%)
country: 1.00 -> 1.00 (+0%)
Mean Nakamoto: 3.67
Details
node_provider data_center data_center_owner area country
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2dgp4-h57n4-a4kgx-n4uun-huo3a-wbdlc-m57wd-jtkuh-g5vcc-fcbby-6qe 1 at2 1 CyrusOne 2 Arizona 1 US 13
7a4u2-gevsy-5c5fs-hsgri-n2kdz-dxxwf-btcfp-jykro-l4y7c-7xky2-aqe 1 aw1 1 Datasite 2 California 2
7ws2n-wqorv-vmo4m-5e222-n42c3-hk43s-ei3kp-4hpbn-xlkzo-jgv7i-tqe 1 ch2 1 Digital Realty 1 Florida 2
bvcsg-3od6r-jnydw-eysln-aql7w-td5zn-ay5m6-sibd2-jzojt-anwag-mqe 1 ch3 1 Evocative 1 Georgia 1
dodsd-rsjlg-sgekb-gr6mi-l6fck-tscwk-4jzgl-fwk4q-ncoyu-ulx53-aqe 1 dl1 1 Flexential 2 Illinois 2
eipr5-izbom-neyqh-s3ec2-52eww-cyfpg-qfomg-3dpwj-4pffh-34xcu-7qe 1 fm1 1 Hurricane Electric 1 Oregon 1
g7dkt-aapqq-j3hqt-xtiys-pwapz-idulp-nwagd-zibqm-caxa4-gc23t-3qe 1 hu1 1 InfoObjects 1 Pennsylvania 1
hk7eo-22zam-kqmsx-dtfbj-k5i6f-jg65h-micpf-2cztc-t2eqk-efgvx-vqe 1 mm1 1 TRG 1 Texas 2
izmhk-lpjum-uo4oy-lviba-yctpc-arg4b-2ywim-vgoiu-gqaj2-gskmw-2qe 1 or1 1 Tierpoint 2 Washington 1
sma3p-ivkif-hz7nu-ngmvq-ibnjg-nubke-zf6gh-wbnfc-2dlng-l3die-zqe 1 ph1 1
sqhxa-h6ili-qkwup-ohzwn-yofnm-vvnp5-kxdhg-saabw-rvua3-xp325-zqe 1 pl1 1
ss6oe-fm7b2-b5r57-y3x74-omrz5-d5pgy-5iwtw-4aew5-aqj3l-6ydra-wqe 1 se1 1
wwdbq-xuqhf-eydzu-oyl7p-ga565-zm7s7-yrive-ozgsy-zzgh3-qwb3j-cae 1 sj3 1
This proposal doens’t follow the IC Target Topology, where the new US-only Subnet was specified with a target of 1 node per Node Provider, Data Center, Data Center Owner which doesn’t match the current configuration with DC Owners Tierpoint, Flexential, Datasite and CyrusOne having each two nodes. Not only that but this subnet should have sev_enabled field set to true to comply with the target topology which was forgotten in the payload where it was left to null: sev_enabled:NULL.
Proposal Observations - Wenzel | CodeGov
Note that CodeGov has already voted to adopt all 6 of the new subnet proposals. (137235, 137234, 137233, 137232, 137231, 137229) and each reviewer has posted their reviews. I have a few additional observations that I wanted to make as well based on the reviews that I have read and my understanding and knowledge of some of the discussion points.
Proposals 137231, 137234
These proposals are included in the initial proposed subnets that will support the Caffeine rollout that will occur within the next week. DFINITY is putting a lot of effort into Caffeine. The community is pumped about Caffeine. We need to be careful about unnecessarily stifling progress to implement the infrastructure that will support Caffeine.
It has been suggested by @Lorimer that proposal 137234 should be rejected because of a node provider cluster defined as BlueAnt (@1eo/@EnzoPlayer0ne) and Zarety (@dfisher). It has also been suggested by @Lorimer that proposal 137231 should be rejected because of a node provider cluster defined as DeNoDe (@DENODE-KR) and Allusion (@Paul_DC). These node providers have claimed independence according to the node provider onboarding policies and node transfer requirements that apply.
In fact, the only node provider cluster that has been implemented in the DRE tooling is the one confirmed by @GAbassad which consists of nodes owned by him, his wife, and his company. There are no other recognized clusters. However, there is a new NP independence policy that includes an independent auditor who will be capable of assessing the accuracy of claims of independence and will advise where there is a cluster that should be formally recognized. Any decisions based on clustering assumptions before then are premature. In fact, in the case of BlueAnt / Zarety, it has already been announced that changes have been implemented that are directly intended to satisfy the new NP independence policy requirements and the plan to do so was confirmed by @samuelburri at DFINITY.
@MalithHatananchchige I’d like to bring these observations to your attention since you have not voted yet on proposal 137231 and your vote will impact the Synapse vote on this proposal.
@alexu @maria @samuelburri Regardless of how co.delta and Synapse vote, I think it is safe to say that voting members of both CodeGov and Synapse would support your decision to adopt all of the proposed Caffeine subnets.
Proposal 137235
Several reviewers observed that proposal 137235 recommends a US Subnet with a non-conformance with respect to an IC Target Topology that is unachievable. The discrepancy in the target topology is that there are only 10 data center owners in the US and the subnet topology requires 13 data center owners. This is a limitation that cannot easily and quickly be resolved as it would require existing node providers to move nodes to a new data center location or the addition of new node providers and/or data center owners. This would be an expensive solution that would increase inflation. It seems unnecessary given the excess nodes we have already. Therefore, the more logical solution is to change the topology requirements to allow a subnet to have fewer than 13 data center owners. This task would add additional weeks if we expect this to be completed first and in the end we would adopt this same exact proposal. The NNS provided clear support to create this US Subnet in proposal 137147 where the vote was 74% YES to 0.3% NO. It seems to me that a more sensible approach is to adopt the proposal and then formally change the topology with another proposal following this proposal.
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Thanks you for taking the time to read the reviews. Please remember that the IC Target Topology carries high security implications which are fundamentally tied to how the IC has been designed. Given this, my opinion is that it is not sufficient to compromise on security because 'The community is pumped about Caffeine', unless the allowance is clearly specified in the acting IC Target Topology.
As you well know, this process is not complete, and is clouded with uncertainty and misleading statements. Anyone who wishes to follow that conversation can do so here. It’s a similar situation for the other NPs mentioned.
Please also remember that initiatives to improve the IC stem from community members exhibiting this sort of critical thinking and due diligence. For example, the recent tooling for verifying CUPs stemmed from this sort of critical discussion, and was followed by clearly explained and justified rejection votes since then, which encouraged this security gap to finally be closed (though some more work is still needed).
The IC depends on participants taking NNS governance seriously.
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It also doesn’t meet SEV requirement - at least based on payload. I think it’s safer to reject, to induce discussion, and with sufficient info we can adopt next time (it can be as soon as tomorrow really).
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Proposal 137231 Review | aligatorr - CO.DELTA △
VOTE: YES
TLDR: Good enough.
- Replica version 60fb469 confirmed in proposal 137153
- All nodes UNASSIGNED
- Dfinity nodes count is 1
- Topology Nakamoto Coefficient is 8% below 5 - countries BE&US&CH have 2 members
Nodes 13 added
| Node ID | Status | Country | City | Node Provider | Data Center | Data Center Owner |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
4gvj7-o7ylc-hpbec-daxvh-wlmpi-3w3sg-nzhdw-e7r65-edxmw-x5gzq-tqe |
UNASSIGNED | US | Washington | DFINITY Stiftung | se1 | Evocative |
4i64c-7p2wc-yotet-r64av-qwt2b-hp3hm-v3wad-bp5md-aeotm-gsofp-jqe |
UNASSIGNED | BE | Brussels Capital | Allusion | br1 | Digital Realty |
6kuom-ucaom-u7xm5-s556x-3rnyk-hdjzd-wkxnx-wsejf-vpnhz-lniqi-nae |
UNASSIGNED | CH | Zurich | Sygnum Bank | zh6 | Green.ch |
7pxqq-e4kmr-saxrs-jziwc-sfdft-bl2wh-k7vhl-6a35o-2stq5-v6uso-3qe |
UNASSIGNED | US | Texas | 87m Neuron, LLC | dl1 | Flexential |
asad5-qg3gv-p5hrf-7liwa-zkoia-t2imf-sztmb-okb3k-gc6ei-xzp77-5qe |
UNASSIGNED | JP | Tokyo | Starbase | ty1 | Equinix |
dfcny-caobt-j247e-73ira-s3ubk-3wmbu-ghlkn-5rbej-gn2t4-xenzr-xqe |
UNASSIGNED | SG | Singapore | OneSixtyTwo Digital Capital | sg1 | Telin |
fnopq-cvgfn-6d32v-y7n5g-kkq6x-kpmce-7tqx3-esaht-b2ovh-qhznv-5qe |
UNASSIGNED | IM | Douglas | Zarety LLC | im2 | Continent8 |
m345s-atzkk-etodt-4bssh-cxcit-aw5ou-kozs4-5bipl-i46aj-uwnnh-bqe |
UNASSIGNED | AU | Queensland | Karel Frank | sc1 | NEXTDC |
mvq4c-mbmpm-2u2mv-h74op-kekjk-6rudx-jl7qb-rpxuu-zicsk-o25td-4qe |
UNASSIGNED | CH | Geneva | Decentralized Entities Foundation | ge1 | HighDC |
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UNASSIGNED | SI | Maribor | BlockFinance | mb1 | Posita.si |
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UNASSIGNED | ZA | Gauteng | Honeycomb Capital (Pty) Ltd | jb2 | Africa Data Centres |
zdean-nwelu-yqpdn-juy4c-avlne-xpl6z-5hj4p-gh7s3-nkfyg-piu5w-jqe |
UNASSIGNED | BE | Flanders | DeNoDe | an1 | Datacenter United |
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UNASSIGNED | CZ | South Moravian Region | Maksym Ishchenko | bn1 | Master Internet |
Nakamoto Coefficients and Topology, avg = 4.60
| Attribute | Nakamoto Coefficient | Identical attribute values | Max allowed identical values | Unique Counts |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Country | 3 | 2 | 10 | |
| City | 5 | NA | 13 | |
| Data Center | 5 | 1 | 13 | |
| Data Center Owner | 5 | 1 | 13 | |
| Node Provider ID | 5 | 1 | 13 |
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